Just starting out? A word of advice - Page 6

The only time I would fold AA is if I was in a satellite and was guaranteed to make it in. This is Sklansky stuff. The exact same situations will rarely occur, but if you always make the +EV decision you have to make money in the long run. Folding AA pre flop always offers negative expected value, so it is a mistake.

but what if you can see the future

On August 13 2006 07:52 Yugless wrote: The only time I would fold AA is if I was in a satellite and was guaranteed to make it in. This is Sklansky stuff. The exact same situations will rarely occur, but if you always make the +EV decision you have to make money in the long run. Folding AA pre flop always offers negative expected value, so it is a mistake.

yeah but you gotta think about variance too.


there was a thread in the past where people were asked if they would put their entire Bankroll on AA preflop, most ppl (with big brs ofcourse) said NO, but why???
its definitelly EV+!... yeah but variance is a bitch and you dont want to risk that kind of money for that edge.

lol because its their WHOLE bankroll.


why risk that 20% (likely...) loss with your whole bankroll when the whole point of having a big bankroll is to make that 20% loss useless in the long run.


it is in no way +ev since you CANT PLAY EVER AGAIN IF YOU LOOSE

My advice would be
1. never slowplay. Strong and overbet monsters.
2. play 1 table first. Make notes how ppl play what starting hands, how much they gamble. So u start putting ppl on hands
3. have no fear.

On August 13 2006 16:30 lucifer wrote: lol because its their WHOLE bankroll. why risk that 20% (likely...) loss with your whole bankroll when the whole point of having a big bankroll is to make that 20% loss useless in the long run. it is in no way +ev since you CANT PLAY EVER AGAIN IF YOU LOOSE

the question also applied for 50% of their BR... they still said no.

On August 12 2006 20:37 TwistedEcho wrote: ahahahahahahahahahah i wouldnt fold AA here at the wsop, let alone any online game. Does NTT play freerolls?

You wouldn't fold AA at the WSOP with 8 people allin? I'd say you have a better chance getting far in the tournament by folding. Not sure though but tournaments are not a cash game. Your AA would be like what, 15% to win? 85% chance of getting knocked out of the tournament at the first blind level.

probably a bit more than 15% (if I may believe the HSP hand rating thingies). When like 6 people were in the overpair still had like 40~50% chance of winning pf.

i'd sure call that in the wsop but i guess if you're a very good player it could be okay to fold

it's called expected utility. the expected utility of your first $100000 is much more than your 2nd $100000 after you double up with AA

but if you win you are the instachipleader come on that's gotta be worth something

Hmm, just something I was thinking about. I play at some server (unibet.com) where most of the cash games has like 5-6 ppl in them, should I raise with say AQ of more often then since the risk of AK/AA is lower or is it still the same old tight play? I figured that I should probably play more hands since the blinds hits me more often, but I can't really decide which hands that would be better. Suited connectors would probably lose value since it's fewer ppl in the pot, right?

when you're just starting out with poker just imagine that you were in a full game but the first three players have already folded and now the action is to you in seat 4 or whatever


also most people loosen up way too much... 6 handed tables are often like some sort of contest where everyone wants to prove that they are the loosest and then the tightest player walks away with their money. You will get lots of action on your good hands

ok, sounds good. Btw, I hit my first straight flush earlier today. 27 off from big blind...

On August 13 2006 17:25 wolfheart wrote: My advice would be 1. never slowplay. Strong and overbet monsters. 2. play 1 table first. Make notes how ppl play what starting hands, how much they gamble. So u start putting ppl on hands 3. have no fear.

Don't play one table at first. It just gets you bored and you do dumb shit as a result.

happy to be here

welcome lol

thanks for the great article! i've played a little poker/blackjack in casinos before, but never practiced it extremely seriously. i guess im gonna take LP.net up on the $75 party poker offer and try and put your strategies to use. thanks for the help

On August 17 2006 05:00 GroT wrote: but if you win you are the instachipleader come on that's gotta be worth something

yes but you can always pick better spots to accumulate chips

On August 16 2006 05:53 Nazgul wrote:      [removed quote within quote] You wouldn't fold AA at the WSOP with 8 people allin? I'd say you have a better chance getting far in the tournament by folding. Not sure though but tournaments are not a cash game. Your AA would be like what, 15% to win? 85% chance of getting knocked out of the tournament at the first blind level.

actually AA has 31% equity in 10 way allin preflop vs 9 random hands. if you have 9 people allin in front of you its not unreasonable to assume a lot of their ranges are close enough to random because theyre drunk or something. anyway obviously you never ever ever ever ever fold a 1 in 3 shot to multiply stack by 10 :|

edit: i think wsop was 10handed if i remember correctly. AA is ~34-35% in 9way allin pre