There have been huge huge debates on different forums about if you put an airplane on a conveyor belt and had the airplane moving at the same speed in the opposite direction would the airplane take off. So basically whether a plane whose wheels are traveling like 100 mph or whatever but isant moving anywhere will be able to reach flight. I think this is the jist of it I didnt really get into it but there were tons of physics people arguing over it.
On March 31 2009 14:28 Mig wrote:
There have been huge huge debates on different forums about if you put an airplane on a conveyor belt and had the airplane moving at the same speed in the opposite direction would the airplane take off. So basically whether a plane whose wheels are traveling like 100 mph or whatever but isant moving anywhere will be able to reach flight. I think this is the jist of it I didnt really get into it but there were tons of physics people arguing over it.
ROFL are u srs? physics discuss this, -_____-
A plane can obviously not fly unless the air under its wings exceeds X speed (depending on its weight and aerodynamics).
The air below the wings of a plane in a conveyor belt will always be ZERO, so the plane will never fly duh.
(unless some smartass says that its a front propeller plane that somehow blows air at its own wings at enough speed to lift, which is obviously not possible in normal conditions)
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maxousek Czech Republic. Mar 31 2009 15:39. Posts 464
On March 31 2009 14:28 Mig wrote:
There have been huge huge debates on different forums about if you put an airplane on a conveyor belt and had the airplane moving at the same speed in the opposite direction would the airplane take off. So basically whether a plane whose wheels are traveling like 100 mph or whatever but isant moving anywhere will be able to reach flight. I think this is the jist of it I didnt really get into it but there were tons of physics people arguing over it.
ROFL are u srs? physics discuss this, -_____-
A plane can obviously not fly unless the air under its wings exceeds X speed (depending on its weight and aerodynamics).
The air below the wings of a plane in a conveyor belt will always be ZERO, so the plane will never fly duh.
(unless some smartass says that its a front propeller plane that somehow blows air at its own wings at enough speed to lift, which is obviously not possible in normal conditions)
you are wrong Baal.... the plane does not have powered wheels like a car for example.... so it does not matter if the belt is moving or not, the plane will go forward with the same speed, it will lose only a little speed by friction.It will get air under its wings and it will flight
but not this one on this picture, cuz the wings cant fit into the hole of the frame
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Svenman87 United States. Mar 31 2009 15:45. Posts 4636
WTF THIS ISN'T DEBATE THREAD WITH A "DEBATE" IN TITLE
On March 31 2009 14:28 Mig wrote:
There have been huge huge debates on different forums about if you put an airplane on a conveyor belt and had the airplane moving at the same speed in the opposite direction would the airplane take off. So basically whether a plane whose wheels are traveling like 100 mph or whatever but isant moving anywhere will be able to reach flight. I think this is the jist of it I didnt really get into it but there were tons of physics people arguing over it.
ROFL are u srs? physics discuss this, -_____-
A plane can obviously not fly unless the air under its wings exceeds X speed (depending on its weight and aerodynamics).
The air below the wings of a plane in a conveyor belt will always be ZERO, so the plane will never fly duh.
(unless some smartass says that its a front propeller plane that somehow blows air at its own wings at enough speed to lift, which is obviously not possible in normal conditions)
you are wrong Baal.... the plane does not have powered wheels like a car for example.... so it does not matter if the belt is moving or not, the plane will go forward with the same speed, it will lose only a little speed by friction.It will get air under its wings and it will flight
but not this one on this picture, cuz the wings cant fit into the hole of the frame
I think what matters here is the ¨relative velocity¨ between the wings and the air, cause as baal said they have to reach a determined speed. In this case the ¨relative velocity¨ between the wings and air is Zero. So it's imposible to that plane to take of, i don't see the huge argue.
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NewbSaibot United States. Mar 31 2009 16:55. Posts 4946
On March 31 2009 14:35 Baal wrote:
(unless some smartass says that its a front propeller plane that somehow blows air at its own wings at enough speed to lift, which is obviously not possible in normal conditions)
With a strong enough headwind, and the right kind of plane
On March 31 2009 14:28 Mig wrote:
There have been huge huge debates on different forums about if you put an airplane on a conveyor belt and had the airplane moving at the same speed in the opposite direction would the airplane take off. So basically whether a plane whose wheels are traveling like 100 mph or whatever but isant moving anywhere will be able to reach flight. I think this is the jist of it I didnt really get into it but there were tons of physics people arguing over it.
ROFL are u srs? physics discuss this, -_____-
A plane can obviously not fly unless the air under its wings exceeds X speed (depending on its weight and aerodynamics).
The air below the wings of a plane in a conveyor belt will always be ZERO, so the plane will never fly duh.
What's hilarious is that you mock the people discussing it, yet get the answer completely wrong. The original post with the picture didn't really have its place in this thread, your answer does :D
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. Mar 31 2009 19:15. Posts 14026
ROFL
Its so much funnier because its a religious ceremony.
On March 31 2009 14:28 Mig wrote:
There have been huge huge debates on different forums about if you put an airplane on a conveyor belt and had the airplane moving at the same speed in the opposite direction would the airplane take off. So basically whether a plane whose wheels are traveling like 100 mph or whatever but isant moving anywhere will be able to reach flight. I think this is the jist of it I didnt really get into it but there were tons of physics people arguing over it.
ROFL are u srs? physics discuss this, -_____-
A plane can obviously not fly unless the air under its wings exceeds X speed (depending on its weight and aerodynamics).
The air below the wings of a plane in a conveyor belt will always be ZERO, so the plane will never fly duh.
What's hilarious is that you mock the people discussing it, yet get the answer completely wrong. The original post with the picture didn't really have its place in this thread, your answer does :D
(unless some smartass says that its a front propeller plane that somehow blows air at its own wings at enough speed to lift, which is obviously not possible in normal conditions)
With a strong enough headwind, and the right kind of plane
actually ideally you want to run the strip against the wind to increase the wind velocity hitting the wings, so you will lift off easily, if its so strong that the drag will make you barely move the plane will be unstable tho.
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