LP stars MTT Challenge!

Hello. If we have enough interest, I'd like to organise an (un)"official" LP mtt challenge for the month of july, which is sort of similar to, but less complicated than, the one run at 2+2. what the hell is this, i hear you ask?

Well, the jist is this. A number of teams are formed from everyone who wants to participate. These teams have captains, and the captains pick their members from the draft of all players who registered an interest in participating. Once we have x teams of y players per team, we all play a ton of MTTs in the month of July, and the team that does the best at the end of the month, in terms of TLB points, wins.

The 2+2 MTT challenge had many more complex rules, which can be found here. It's a good system for scoring that rewards performance more than which team played the most (mass 20+2 180 man sngs anyone?), however it's overcomplicated for our much smaller site, so instead we'll just impose a rule that only TLB points won from scheduled tournaments (tourneys->regular in stars menu) are allowed to count, so it doesn't become a competition to see who can grind out the most multitable SNGs.

To make it interesting, each team has to put up i dunno say 500$ into the prize pool for their signup, and at the end, the team that wins scoops and shares out the lot.

So, I'm just creating this to see how many people would be interested in possibly playing in something like this. Given enough interest I'll (with the help of some guys like bigballs/mig) think about actually organising this and deciding what works best with regards to players per team/number of teams/signup fee/other exact parameters for rules

If you're interested in taking part, and able to put in time playing lots and lots of mtts (as well as have sufficient bankroll to be comfortably able to do so), and want to spend your july partaking in a friendly team based competition with your fellow LP posters, please reply here with the following:

1) how interested and eager you are to take part in something like this
2) how many hours a day you estimate you will play poker in July
3) a rough indication of the sort of buyins of tournaments you can easily afford to play
4) roughly how much are you willing, and do you think is a reasonable amount, to put up for the event? (ie contribute to the prize pool)

The answers to questions 1 and 2 are the most important for the success of this competition, but it'll be useful for me to know the ratio of higher buyin players to lower buyin players as well when deciding what works best for things like the number of teams and number of players per team.

And finally,

5) if you're a higher buyin player, would you be happy with the possibility of being a team captain?

I hope we can get a good amount of interested people for this soon, so we can pick captains, # per team, entry fee per team, and begin the drafting process before July starts. Reply away!






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Rules update

-There will be 4 teams of 5 players.
-The signup fee for each team is $500.
-The TLB points from top 20 scores of a team will count.
-Each team member has to put forward at least 2 scores (they will be counted as 0 if a member fails to make 2 scores). There is no maximum to the amount of a team's top20 scores that can come from one player, but the minimum per player is 2.


Captains

travis
TwistedEcho
casinocasino


Players for draft so far

Mig
fira
Tr3CooL
Ket
teej1985
DarkXprt
chrusher97
JonnyCosMo
TalentedTom
Floofy
PoorUser
BigBalls
BigRed0000
artpoker
wolfheart
hansen
Baal
Pokerintheface

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What if you're a higher buyin player but you suck at mtts like bigballs? Do you still get to be a captain?

or mig. we all know he sux at MTT

1) VERY
2) MANY
3) im happy to play in all the bigger buyin stuff as well as the smaller buyin ones- basically whatever's going
4) like maybe 200, more if need be.
I forgot to mention, although all teams pay the same (still undecided) entry, individuals within a team can take different pieces of the action, and if that team wins the challenge, the amount the individuals of that team win from the competition's prize pool will be proportional to the amount of the team's entry they put up individually

5) hell no. i think captains should be the big name tournament players here. i sincerely hope people like mig/elky/raszi/twistedecho will volunteer to be the team captains. im a cash game donkey who will spend july learning mtts while playing as many as possible.

I'd help run this with you - maybe some nice admin could give us a section on the left for MTT CHALLENGE or something, and make us temporary mods for that section for the month? Obviously that would depend on this having a high level of interest.

Another way we did it on 2+2 (i was in the challenge) was the team captains paid the fees, and then it was up to the team to sort out who pays what % of that, obviously with the idea if that team wins, the payouts would be paid back going on the %% they paid in.

I'd happily be a captain also!

I like the idea of the captain paying the fees then the team will split up the action between them.

Oh and assuming i have my internet all sorted (moving house end of month) i'll prob play like 300 mtts over the month

this sounds like fun i'd like to give it a shot even though i will be playing mostly cash games this month, playing 1-2 MTT's at any time is cool with me, i can afford the 20+2 ones pretty easily :o

i can probably play 3-6 hours a day maybe more if i'm feeling gay

blegh July no playing time but a second edition in winter and im in

Whichever team had naz would need a handicap.

im high right now so ill read it later

but whatever it is i want in

Travis volunteers as captain.

So echo and travis are captains so far.

On June 09 2006 17:10 Mig wrote: Travis volunteers as captain. So echo and travis are captains so far.

you'll be a captain too surely?

i'd be interested in this but no matter how much $$ i put up in the competition, i couldn't force myself to play the amount of MTTs i'd need to win

meh... maybe

i dunno

yea fine count me in... see how many people u get

what the hell is this, i hear you ask?
lol ket for comedian!

count with me anyway ^^

count me in
1)meh nothin better to do
2)30h+
3)any
4)$500?
5)im not fam00se enough

FUCK
I'll BE OUT OF THE COUNTRY THE WHOLE MONTH OF JULY
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CHANGE TO AUGUST!!! (or do another one in august!)
bleh i probably wont make a difference anyways

i wanna enroll

I would like to play, but Im away the entire summer, maybe again in November/December and I would probably play.

Sounds like a real good motivator for playing a shitload of MTTs. Awsome! To bad im in thailand until 10 july

Sounds like a very good idea. I would like to be a part of it, but alas! I havn't the means to afford it

1. Pretty interested
2. Im on the computer most of the day
3. I can only afford tournaments <$15
4. Not sure, I would only be a small contributor to the team.

interesting

I'll play. And I can organize it if you want.

I'll be interested. I'm playing mostly tournaments since the summer started since I really want to become more of a tournament player (boy this is stressful). As you can see from my db stats (which aren't impressive at all so dont laugh), I've made 4 final tables since June 1st between Party and Stars, and have had a number of cashes which puts me in the top 150 for TLB on Stars for now (imagine that!).

1) Yes I'm interested
2) Poker is my summer job so... atleast 5-6 hours a day
3) Can afford any buy-in tournaments but I'm not very comfortable playing above $50+5 since my "advanced" tournament game is rather weak, so I just bash on the donks at the low levels for now.
4) To a prize pool (assuming I'm betting on my own team to win) i'd be willing to put up $200-$500.

Sensai TwistedEcho, you got your #1 draft pick right here!

Question: How are you getting LURPED and RaSZi active for this... they will be at the WSOP.

are they going to WSOP?
holy cow, that nice ;d

if i get a tournament backer, i will do this. i killed stars and party mtt's last summer.

On June 09 2006 18:32 JonnyCosMo wrote: Question: How are you getting LURPED and RaSZi active for this... they will be at the WSOP.

bigballs spoke to lurped and told me to add him, because he agreed to it. to be honest im slightly worried he'll not care and forget if hes in vegas, but we'll see.
raszi spoke with us in our multiway msn orgy earlier and indicated the possiblity of interest... mig told me to add him anyway, hopefully he'll decide it's obv a great thing to play in
(so yeah these things might be subject to lastminute change with interests of a smoothly run and successful competition)

why isn't mig a captain wtf

because he is gay

put the equity teams i mean
not putting elky, raszi, nazgul, rekrul, lurped in one, or gg everyone :D

On June 09 2006 19:18 Pokerintheface wrote: why isn't mig a captain wtf

because mig doesnt want to be captain

1) lets boogie
2) dunno maybe 6-8
3) ill play anything up to $500
4) if each team splits $500 that would mean ~$125 or something per person - thats something almost everyone can afford


Bring teh shit

mig, bigballs, fira and talentedtom should be captains all the way

added

no offense logiabs but you're making it difficult by cluttering this thread with constant garbage useless posts, can you please stop doing it?
(don't post a post to reply to this post either)

should add rainakhan - hes a tourney specialist im sure he will want a peice of this

whilst it would be cool if rainkhan participates, it's up to him whether he wants to or not. i can't just add him because you said

Not to "clutter" this thread or anything, but I do think that if mig.com participates that he should be a captain... It'd be kinda rigged to let someone like LURPED or RaSZi draft mig.com or ElkY first round.

I sent RaiNKhaN the link. I hope he is interested.

BigBalls come in here and clean up this thread.

I think (if this is not already the case) prizepool should be divided in tems of equity so if i put up $400 and someone else on my team puts up $100 my $400 represents 80% of my teams volume so if my team wins I get 80% of the winnings.
Is this how the structure will work?

On June 09 2006 20:40 TalentedTom wrote: I think (if this is not already the case) prizepool should be divided in tems of equity so if i put up $400 and someone else on my team puts up $100 my $400 represents 80% of my teams volume so if my team wins I get 80% of the winnings. Is this how the structure will work?

obv...


and cosmo,
1. if mig completely refuses to be a captain there's no way we can make him
2. he will only play the highest buyin tournaments anyway, so he may not be as big an asset to any team as you might initially think, compared to another player who's less good but still decent, and is prepared to play a lot more tournaments, and so will have a greater chance at making more scores
3. the plan is (once we finalise the captains) to have a private captains' tournament, where the order of elimination of captains in the tournament will determine the order captains get to pick players in the draft

i hope this will generate lots of interest and excitement, as well as lots of sidebet action and lively discussion and speculation.

as twistedecho said, it would be really cute if when this thing gets underway we get our own MTT CHALLENGE section of the forums, and we get temporary mod powers to make sticky threads and stuff like that

I think people overestimate how good I would be for this contest. I am not going to play that many tourneys. There is no way I will play close to 300 like echo. In terms of tlb points I dont know how much help I will be.

Plus I dont want to be captain

1. sounds good
2. decent ammount, 3 hour a day maybe more if im minded
3. like 20$
4. Not sure, depends my team ^^

maybe if raszi or lurped win WSOP that counts for like 5000 points?

id play sure

one thing... how will u figure out how many TLB pts everyone has?

On June 09 2006 22:32 Pacifist wrote: one thing... how will u figure out how many TLB pts everyone has?

can email support and get a list. This can be verified using pokerdb if need be.

im in
i suck at mtt
actually no i rule at mtt but am not a luckbox like mig, ill ft everything in sight when i stop getting bad beats
but i play higher buyin events
wouldnt want to put up a ton of money for it, but ill put up enough to cover whatever my teammates dont

pokerdb does not list the 180's which count toward TLB points.

Besides this, ket I dont think we should make this a TLB point tally race. I think we should find a good way to score tournaments of each player based on results listed in the pokerdb, because the pokerdb just lists tournament cashes which is perfect, and if we do a TLB thing, anyone can abuse the $4 180's and rack up a ton of TLB points which is just lame.

lets do like $1000-$2000 / team, if they are like 5 person teams

if less than less money

i'd like to enter the draft.

feel free to fill in my little form thing when you wanna enter draft instead of posting 2 words, you assholes!

cosmo, i already put in the rules any multitable sng won't count, so this is not a strict tlb point race. ofc we will use pokerdb for this, we already thought of that dw

raszi and frinkx, we already decided a good amount to use per team is 500$. we can bump it up to more once all the teams are formed, by mutual agreement with the players drafted. unfortunately you can't be making your own random 2 person teams up, since this is a team based competition which aims to bring people of the site together. theres no reason you guys should be allowed such special treatment that you can just ruin how we want to run it. But as I said, we'll hold a captains tournament to determine player picking order in the draft, if you do well in this it'll increase your likelihood of being able to pick Elky first before anyone else can in the first round of the draft pickings. edit: oh yeah, tell elky to sign up for the draft here, to make this even possible.

You're always free to make your own private sidebets on top. For example, I believe mig.com and twistedecho said those two would like to compete with you two (speaking to Raszi and Elky) for a 2vs2 TLB race, counting all tlb points including those from multitable sngs that give TLB for a 20k sidebet (5k from each player).

i'd participate, but then i'd be burning $$ playing a ton of stupid low buyin events on a site that i hate because if i participated, i'd want to win

1) VERY i want to get good at tournies but ive barely played any so far
2) 3-4 maybe.. maybe more, ill be able to play a lot, although i MIGHT be going away for a period of time so not sure
3) not sure, whatever the conventional br management allows for my bankroll (5k) although im very inexperianced at mtts so maybe assume my br is a bit smaller
4) no idea, whatever the rest of team is doing, not too much i guess maybe ~$100?

1) interested (if there are other low limit players - i dont want to be the only low stakes newb in it )
2) dunno how many hours, but speaking in number of tournaments: 2-3 / day.
3) up to 30+3 freezeouts, or 5+1 rebuys
4) not much, 40-50$ max.

1)Yes, i've been winning some lately, Im a low stake player though.
2)All necessary to complete the MTTs im gonna play.
3)$1, $2, $3 rebuy or not.
4) If it is not a lot my part. I'll define alot later,.

I can do weekly reports about how the whole event is going during the month of july.

1) Very interested, I think it would be extremely fun.
2) at least 5, most of the time 8
3) 4.4 180 man sng's, 3.3 rebuy, 10+1 MTT, 5.5 MTT,
4) I would contribute 100 bucks

Are you including ub and paradise or just stars?

Look at title

i am intrested but i only will play up to 5$ tournies because i have 2 small bankroll atm

my team gun cream ur teram

just seems like if its gunna be like 4 or 5 person teams $500 is not much, especially to motivate someone to play all month long. ur gunna make that money back (well at least i'd hope so) regardless, i think each person putting up a couple hundred or even like 500 a piece is what might make it interesting and worth while

On June 10 2006 14:44 FrinkX wrote: just seems like if its gunna be like 4 or 5 person teams $500 is not much, especially to motivate someone to play all month long. ur gunna make that money back (well at least i'd hope so) regardless, i think each person putting up a couple hundred or even like 500 a piece is what might make it interesting and worth while

not everyone can afford this. I have a $1k sidebet with ket for who can get the most TLB over the month, and i figure i'll win money playing the mtts anyway. Get a sidebet with ket if you want more money from this, hes a fish at sidebets

On June 10 2006 14:50 TwistedEcho wrote: Show nested quote + On June 10 2006 14:44 FrinkX wrote: just seems like if its gunna be like 4 or 5 person teams $500 is not much, especially to motivate someone to play all month long. ur gunna make that money back (well at least i'd hope so) regardless, i think each person putting up a couple hundred or even like 500 a piece is what might make it interesting and worth while not everyone can afford this. I have a $1k sidebet with ket for who can get the most TLB over the month, and i figure i'll win money playing the mtts anyway. Get a sidebet with ket if you want more money from this, hes a fish at sidebets

ROFLMAO~

i guess im assuming everyone is going to be playing all MTTs including 300/150's and big sunday tourneys

yea guess sidebets it is

On June 10 2006 17:21 FrinkX wrote: i guess im assuming everyone is going to be playing all MTTs including 300/150's and big sunday tourneys yea guess sidebets it is

you get more TLB points for winning the 3r than the 100r. I'll be playing the 150s and sunday tournaments, and pretty much every NLHE $1-$50 that i can.

After july i might hate tournaments enough so i can work on cashgames

if imma devote my time next month to only tournies we should definatley up the stakes i don tthikn $500 is enough motivation to stop playing casghames.

i'll take another 1k tlb sidebet vs you tom

On June 10 2006 19:29 TalentedTom wrote: if imma devote my time next month to only tournies we should definatley up the stakes i don tthikn $500 is enough motivation to stop playing casghames.

I'll sidebet any amount of money for total TLB point me vs you.

Big enough incentive?

On June 10 2006 19:30 Ket wrote: i'll take another 1k tlb sidebet vs you tom

wtfffffffff no AIM fish?!

yea ill play all the rebuys but not crappy lil $20 tournies

great idea guys im just surprised i didnt see this thread until now
im definatly intrested, tough im not that great at MTTs this will probably get my motivation up for getting better. someone will have to help me out!
i dont know how much ill play in july but probably a bunch of hours a day
whatever buyin at the tournaments are fine i guess but ill mainly play the <50$ freezeouts
and for the buyin to this event it doenst matter really, but below 300$ or something

On June 10 2006 21:09 hansen wrote: great idea guys im just surprised i didnt see this thread until now im definatly intrested, tough im not that great at MTTs this will probably get my motivation up for getting better. someone will have to help me out! i dont know how much ill play in july but probably a bunch of hours a day whatever buyin at the tournaments are fine i guess but ill mainly play the <50$ freezeouts and for the buyin to this event it doenst matter really, but below 300$ or something

MMMM BOP
BOP BOP DOOOO-WOP

i couldnt help myself

Travis~ that is so 1990's... get with it

hansen rocks so hard

im available if anyone wants me in their team if they agree to BANKROLL me, im willing to spend hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours playig, if you think Elky is sick you have seen nothing biatch.

well anything willing to BR me in the mtts PM me.

btw im serious, nobody plays more hands then me and i willing to sidebet my whole BR to that.

On June 11 2006 03:46 Baal wrote: btw im serious, nobody plays more hands then me and i willing to sidebet my whole BR to that.

i will sidebet say 200$ that u will not be able to play as many hands in a single session as Baaash (a friend from CZE who also occasionally posts here at LP.net).
if u are interested, pm me and we will discuss the details.

i play more hands than baal

PMed you Joe. nobody, NOBODY plays more than me

meh.. the group was called hanson right? not even close :S

your cze friend prolly does speed

otherwise i could play more hands in a session than him

I can't play July is summer time.. won't be home... like naz said winter and i'll play....

Artpoker probably plays more than you Baal haha

On June 11 2006 03:46 Baal wrote: btw im serious, nobody plays more hands then me and i willing to sidebet my whole BR to that.

Hmmmm how big is your BR? I wanna see if it's worth it to find someone that plays a lot

bump

i think casinocasino gonna be a captain?

captain jew bag

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

all right, lets team up and play. :D

so whats happeneing with this?

i would like to play. hmm but i need to make sure i have enough time, because the last week of july i will be on holiday

Mig for first round daft easy

All right, thanks for the support and interest you guys have all showed. Hopefully the technicalities will be sorted out by the end of this week and we'll be all ready to start the drafting.

Updates:
casinocasino replaces LURPED as a captain.. we don't think LURPED is a good choice after all, since im told he's gonna be in vegas for wsop for a large part of july (plus he doesnt even post here, wtf is that?)

I'm not sure if travis is still available to be captain. If not, we may have to cut it down to just 3 teams. watch this space, i guess

This next week will be your last chance to register for drafting. Also if you previously signed up for drafting and want to now remove yourself for some reason, please say about that.

3 teams =(

even less chance to be drafted :-/

travis bumped this so hes probably in it though...

i don't think im going to play in this

im 90% going to vegas during july

1. Alot
2. Tons
3. Any stars offers
4. $500

i want to get good at tourniesssssssss

1.) As it draws closer I'm more and more interested
2.) A lot
3.) depends, probably nothing higher then $100 though
4.) $100 or so

let july go down in history as the most tourney donkin'ish month of all time

I hope i get picked by a good team....
IM GOOD SON

I say let the side bet amount be desided after the teams are made. But let the 500 be the minimum.

pick me pick me!

ok some updatez, now we're only having 3 teams of 6 ppl. raszi's gonna be on hol in july and wont participate (oh dont think to mention it or anything raszi, we're psychic anyway np)

captains are

TRAVIS
TWISTEDECHO
CASINOCASINO

a new thread with finalised drafting detailz is coming s00n. draft will be this sunday around the time of the lp tourny ish.

anyone wants to sidebet 'x' team wins?

Hi,

1. I would be interested in enrolling for this. I've been playing lots of cash games lately and need a change.
2. I can consistently contribute ~ 40 hours a week (weekdays*4 + weekends*10) so ~ 5.5h/day
3. The buy-in level under $15, or under $11 for rebuys
4) For the prize pool I can contribute $100