Looks or Game? - Page 13

On February 17 2008 10:58 Yugless wrote: i guess calling you sleazy was pretty rude and i'm sorry. floofy is a nice guy who doesn't want to just have sex with random girls, he wants a nice girlfriend (i think) and he's going to have to get all of this fake bs out of his head and learn to relax and be confident and comfortable with himself. once he does that he will become much more attractive. if you want to have sex with random girls (nothing wrong with that) then by all means work on your game and be as fake as you have to be to trick girls in to having sex with you.

game is all about being yourself wtf are you talking about?????????????????

On February 17 2008 11:10 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: Show nested quote + On February 17 2008 10:58 Yugless wrote: i guess calling you sleazy was pretty rude and i'm sorry. floofy is a nice guy who doesn't want to just have sex with random girls, he wants a nice girlfriend (i think) and he's going to have to get all of this fake bs out of his head and learn to relax and be confident and comfortable with himself. once he does that he will become much more attractive. if you want to have sex with random girls (nothing wrong with that) then by all means work on your game and be as fake as you have to be to trick girls in to having sex with you. I think you're misunderstanding what game is

That's the whole point. The moment girls get your game you fail. It's like poker, you need to be one step ahead, or one level higher of her for your game to work and you to "win".

On February 17 2008 09:02 Graisseux wrote: You are like 21-22. She is like 15-16. Danger. Police. 911. No matter your game, you'll look desperate. Pedophilia !

you put us quebecers to shame

plus she has more sexual experience than floofy so

On February 17 2008 09:03 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: Which basically means I'd want a healthy, attractive, intelligent, ambitious, successful, horny woman. Because that would progress my life in a way I want it to. Are you saying the reason I want those things is because of evolution? r because of evolution. I take my vitamins too. And eat healthy. It's evolution. Nothing else.

if you're referring to my last post where I said "thanks to game i'm not superficial anymore"

this is what I meant:

Before I had game I only went after really hot girls. If I could get a hot girl that was a success. One time I was dating a semi-famous hot girl, that was a big ego boost. (was pretty young and didn't have game so i never sealed the deal)

now I have: "a healthy, attractive, intelligent, ambitious, successful, horny woman" oh yea, and did i mention, she's fucking loaded too

BUT, I've lately realized, i'm far from satisfied.

You see guys who have game can really pick and choose imho. If you can rarely get a hot chick, U'll bend over for any hot chick u can get. If u can get tons of hot chicks, you'll start picking only ones that are smart, ones that are this... that....

but, like all guys who haven't sold themselves short yet, I wont settle for a girl I'm not attracted to... once i have that (my gf does modeling when she's not working her post law-degree internship to become a judge ) I'm gonna start having other expectations from girls... such as intelligence, ambition, passion, high sex drive, et cetera, et cetera.... the most important thing: HOW SHE TREATS YOU

BUT, from my latest relationship I've learned this. SCREENING IS CRUCIAL. I don't want to have to hook up with 20 girls and get them all emotionally involved before I find out if they're LSE/HSE, LD/HD... I don't want to start an exclusive relationship with a girl who has a visibly short relationship timeline (if it's not in my interests / which, bc of my age it isn't) and MOST OF ALL, I've realized I DO NOT WANT TO START A RELATIONSHIP WITH A GIRL WHO HAS A POOR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DOMINANT/ALPHA PARENT (usually her father)... now i realize many of u are young and will thus be dating young girls. These girls will naturally have many LSE (low self-esteem) traits but if u research it's easy to tell if their low self esteem in the relationship is a consequence of their inexperience and immaturity (thus lack of confidence/self assurance) in the relationship, or if it's due to the plain fact that they have and always will have low self esteem. I don't want to write an essay but trust me, you don't want to date a girl with low self esteem. Especially if you aren't an emotional rock. The hardest thing is this. There are 3 types of low self esteem. One of them is called "The Impostor" which is what I've categorized my gf under, google it if interested. So she has ambition and success in her life but her LSE will really effect the relationship (like i said I don't want to write an essay here). But, bc of this, many ppl can easily be fooled and think someone is HSE when in fact they're LSE. Not only am I planning to thoroughly screen girl's for HSE I will also screen them for a HD (high sex drive). I'm not 100% sure how I'm going to do both of these. I'm going to try to work on some long game (far from my previous strategy) bc I don't want to have to have sex with many girls and have to deal with them then getting attached & or get attached myself. There's a few really good ways though to see some real red flags which u can spot after knowing the girl for 20 minutes.

1st, Bad relationship with father or dominant family member... or abuse (the latter they will not tell u upfront but u'd be surprised how earnest you can make ppl be about their family relations)
2nd, obvious lack of ambition or direction in life or other obvious indicators of LSE (some ppl say they thrive on co-dependent relationships but it's emotionally and mentally unhealthy for everyone / same goes for if the dependency is one-sided )
3rd, Overeagerness to please, huge tell tale sign of LSE (will be obvious to spot with practice and observation)
4th, Are they ticklish? I haven't confirmed the reliability of this one (perhaps some ppl could chime in) but I read that women who are ticklish will have higher drive and one's that are less ticklish will have lower drive. The reason is simple bc the ticklish ones will have more heightened senses and naturally enjoy sex more whereas the non-ticklish ones will.... u get the idea
5th, Reactions to sexual comments or stories involving sexual content may provide clues to the role of sex in the girl's life. You must have the proper frame to communicate the story. IE, if ur her boss and it's ur first time meeting, saying anything sexual will be inappropriate and rub any girl the wrong way but if u meet a girl in a crowded public space and go get drinks and there's obv sexual tension, then her reaction might be a huge indication. Unfortunately, there's no hugely field tested or well studied works on these so it might take me time to work these things out but I have hope

The way I see it, I have about 10 years to find the perfect woman. And, in my non-gaming days, i'd have insta settled for a really hot girl who was bad in all other categories. Shit, i'd have married one to lock her down bc of my lack of confidence my ability to get a high value woman. Such confidence only comes with time. This wouldn't have made me superficial though per se, although it might seem that way. It was just the natural by-product of a guy who had limited choices and so couldn't see past the most important variable which is attraction. It's like our need to eat and breathe on maslov's hierarchy of needs, only once that is satisfied can we start discriminating on a higher level.

On February 17 2008 10:58 Yugless wrote: i guess calling you sleazy was pretty rude and i'm sorry. floofy is a nice guy who doesn't want to just have sex with random girls, he wants a nice girlfriend (i think) and he's going to have to get all of this fake bs out of his head and learn to relax and be confident and comfortable with himself. once he does that he will become much more attractive. if you want to have sex with random girls (nothing wrong with that) then by all means work on your game and be as fake as you have to be to trick girls in to having sex with you.

i think im looking for a relationship that will last more than a single night. im not in a good position to know what i want since i havent tryed either but...
if i had sex with a girl i was attracted to and liked (and she was liking me too) then im sure i would like to see her again some other day. i don't see why we would want to stop it after a single night.

and as other people have said you seem to be misunderstaning what a game is.

game is like:
#1 using humor
#2 smiling
#3 being confident and comfortable
#4 knowing some basic about seduction (this doesnt mean lying all over the place)
#5 working on your looks a little....

this isnt "fake bullshit"

On February 17 2008 14:29 Steal City wrote: Show nested quote + On February 17 2008 09:03 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: Which basically means I'd want a healthy, attractive, intelligent, ambitious, successful, horny woman. Because that would progress my life in a way I want it to. Are you saying the reason I want those things is because of evolution? r because of evolution. I take my vitamins too. And eat healthy. It's evolution. Nothing else. blah blah blah

My comment about evolution didn't make it painfully obvious that this wasn't what I meant?

On February 17 2008 10:58 Yugless wrote: i guess calling you sleazy was pretty rude and i'm sorry. floofy is a nice guy who doesn't want to just have sex with random girls, he wants a nice girlfriend (i think) and he's going to have to get all of this fake bs out of his head and learn to relax and be confident and comfortable with himself. once he does that he will become much more attractive. if you want to have sex with random girls (nothing wrong with that) then by all means work on your game and be as fake as you have to be to trick girls in to having sex with you.

you've seen the real floofy. it's right there on the page. do you find him attractive?

casper, keep in mind in this topic i am seeking help to be better with women and seeking validation. obviously this isn't attractive at all
i am not constantly doing that in my day life lol

but your right the way i behave "naturally" isn't good at all

anyways today i bought some weights and some clothes ill take a pic in a few days once i get my new camera.

i pmed TheHUHU to get some advice to gain some mass

Some people think game is telling lies and tricking girls into sleeping with you.


That obviously isn't what we are talking about.


Game is about being confident, saying the right things, and having the right body language. Nothing superficial about it.

why do ppl always say "tricking girls into sleeping with you". whats so bad about sleeping with an attractive guy?

neither if you got bank!

I was mad drunk when I posted about screening but I personally find it a very very very interesting subject but only ppl with well thought out game will ever even approach screening in any reasonable way and yet it could obviously be said that every major relationship problem is due to poor screening

Yugless is too naive, as floofy clearly stated before the absolute proof that you are wrong is that you do not have any resemblance of attraction towards floofy and you will never have if by some random reason you end up meeting the lp.net gang, you would rather bang rekrul than floofy despise knowing how Dan is.

On February 17 2008 18:56 Baal wrote: you would rather bang rekrul than floofy despise knowing how Dan is.

only if daut44 isn't available

i love how yugless is almost feeling a shame of answering rekrul and feels the need to answer in a subtil way

anyways, i am fully conscious the way i behave with yug has no chance in hell of sparking attraction and it has never been my objective anyways. The behavior used to spark attraction isn't the best for friendship

btw fuck you baal comparing me to rekrul, u wouldn't do much better against him -,-

On February 17 2008 18:56 Baal wrote: Yugless is too naive, as floofy clearly stated before the absolute proof that you are wrong is that you do not have any resemblance of attraction towards floofy and you will never have if by some random reason you end up meeting the lp.net gang, you would rather bang rekrul than floofy despise knowing how Dan is.

You have real ppl issues don't you baal? your always so negative, jesus christ

On February 17 2008 19:16 Yugless wrote: Show nested quote + On February 17 2008 18:56 Baal wrote: you would rather bang rekrul than floofy despise knowing how Dan is. only if daut44 isn't available

you presume that he would want you

that isn't attractive

On February 17 2008 21:27 sawseech wrote: Show nested quote + On February 17 2008 19:16 Yugless wrote:   On February 17 2008 18:56 Baal wrote: you would rather bang rekrul than floofy despise knowing how Dan is. only if daut44 isn't available you presume that he would want you that isn't attractive

ur jealous cuz he likes me more

daut44 is a pimp

On February 17 2008 21:44 Yugless wrote: Show nested quote + On February 17 2008 21:27 sawseech wrote:   On February 17 2008 19:16 Yugless wrote:   On February 17 2008 18:56 Baal wrote: you would rather bang rekrul than floofy despise knowing how Dan is. only if daut44 isn't available you presume that he would want you that isn't attractive ur jealous cuz he likes me more

you presume that i like you

that isn't attractive

i do like your profiability tho