Looks or Game? - Page 218

Yeah and it's funny how you refer to players as "lower people". The only real way to achieve respect and power, even if on the smaller scale is to be charismatic and able to alter social dynamics in a given setup. These players are generally pretty good at that, whilst you are not. That's why they get the tail.

And yea, Wisdom pretty well summarized it. They can't say they only want sex even if it's true. Maybe she just wants to try out a virgin.

As for what you should've answered - saying "I used to be shy" is better than saying "I used to be ugly".

Aaaaand as for the dance, maybe you were just mad stiff cuz you were so excited and she noticed it after you went on stage (that could explain it), or maybe she got creeped out by your boner. Who knows.

But if she agrees to go out with you again, then you have a shooting chance so don't screw it up. The fact that she said so after the last time doesn't necessarily mean she will tho. But stop bombarding her with calls, if she really wants to contact you, she will call back - if nothing else, she'll borrow a phone from someone. Calling every two hours seems really needy and when she doesn't answer the first two times - what are your thoughts then? Why did she ignore you? Maybe she's just not interested in going out that day, but doesn't want to say that to you directly.

This looks fairly promising so far, since you haven't yet tickled her. It's really important to get the kino going btw. Stuff like touching the girl are pretty mandatory to create attraction. If you just talk talk talk, but never even touch her hand or whatever, you will never create that sexual tension between you and you'll end up making a new friend. Touching their hand/shoulder/waist isn't weird and it's not like they'll pull back from it since you don't have to be romantically involved to do that necessarily.

Drinking more than one beer might be a good idea though - the idea is to take the edge off, not to get drunk. I can only imagine how you act all nervous, can't think of smart things to say and end up saying "I used to be ugly".

That being said, Good Luck, sir! Don't screw it up!

AND POST PICS!

muh i never said players were lower people, i refered to myself with lower people

i actually never had a boner the whole night, i wasnt thinking sexually.
as for my answer i guess ur kind of right. just shy would have been fine


anyways today i called once and it did the same thing, i wont call again.
i paid for my cell im gonna get it back so ill just TXT message her something like "Ok i cant call you it doesnt work so just call me back at xxx xxx xxxx."
if she doesnt call back cuz of the 15c shes just stupid lol

Btw i told this story to some girl and shes like...
just go to her house!!!
lol

I don't think going to her house is a good idea if she's not picking up your calls.

The way you said players and then said "She could get any of these lower people" and then added "but she wants a nice guy" made it seem a bit contrary to what you're saying now tho.

But yea, if she knows you've been trying to take contact (if her phone can tell her that), then it should be enough and she'll find a way to contact you if she wants it.

If you're desperate to call her - wait a couple of days. If you try every day, it'll just be creepy since you didn't even make first base yet.

muh, i really doubt shes not picking up the calls on purpose

i think either
#1 she has left the phone at home and this is why she aint answering. or she listen to loud music or something

#2 she has no time left like she said it could happen....

#3 she gave me the wrong number???


i think ill send her a text message tomorrow, and ill ask the fatty to go ask her whats up for me. but i wont call anymore this is obviously not working

On October 05 2008 15:37 Floofy wrote: #1 she has left the phone at home and this is why she aint answering. or she listen to loud music or something

For six hours and on two days in a row? If it's the first one, then calling many times does not accomplish anything anyway. Second one is just silly.

On October 05 2008 15:37 Floofy wrote: #2 she has no time left like she said it could happen....

She can answer the phone even if she doesn't, no?

On October 05 2008 15:37 Floofy wrote: #3 she gave me the wrong number???

Well you were set up by some other girl that's supposedly a friend of hers so this one's actually quite unlikely. It's more likely that she's not picking up cuz she doesn't want to. No need to panic tho, which ever the reason - bombarding with calls isn't the solution so you can pretty safely rest, knowing that you've done what you can.

On October 05 2008 15:37 Floofy wrote: i think ill send her a text message tomorrow, and ill ask the fatty to go ask her whats up for me. but i wont call anymore this is obviously not working

Myeah, don't ask where she's been tho. More like: ignore the fact that she has ignored you and just ask if she wants to go out or w/e ;D

Also, asking for her friend to check up on her miiiiiiiight not be a good idea. Here's why:
You just met the girl and now you're sending her friends after her? I suppose you could ask her what's up with her but you shouldn't ask her to ask for you because that's as bad, if not worse, than just being your needy self and bombarding her with calls or going over to her house, lulz!

This could also be one of the side-effects of being hasty with the calling business. There's a reason why people advocate to not calling the next day, and my theory is that it builds suspension. Will he call? Won't he call? Ohhh... Maybe he won't call? What if he does? I bet if she promised to call, you'd be doing this, no? ;D

Patience is a virtue. You've waited quite a long time for a good thing to happen, you can wait a day or two more.

Also, I think it's extremely naive to think that she doesn't pick up your calls because of something that's not up to her. When she does do that, she'll prolly give you an excuse that might or might not be true, but you shouldn't think about it. Just bear in mind that you want to try to kiss her on the date if she does go out with you. You don't have to boink her the first date, but it's good to have a goal!

Ok ill bust your bubble here and take this as absolutes truth or just realize they are in the future throu your own pain and experience:

1.- If she WANTS to call you, she will, if the girl really likes you, she will find a way to reach you, put 10 bucks in her phone, or just asking a friend to let her make a call, such a trivial thing (and also not having time rofl) would not stop anyone.

2.- Girls who dated "bad boys" and now want a "good guy" cuz she is hurt, are full of shit, yes they have been hurt but we all get hurt yet we like certain kind of people and we cannot change that, even if she is dumb enough to decieve herself into thinking she wants a shy good boy, and even if she manages to ignore that there is no chemistry and carries on with such a guy, its bound to fail always, that is not what she wants or likes.


Now that being said im not saying you shouldnt call her or to let her go because of those 2 things, but keep them in mind always, try to reach her for a couple of days, if she doesnt get a hold of you let it go.

On October 05 2008 15:37 Floofy wrote: or she listen to loud music or something

yeah lol... cmon floofy...

On October 05 2008 15:37 Floofy wrote: #3 she gave me the wrong number???

rule #1, at the time she gives you her phone, call her instead of opening the "add phone" application, call her, see her cellphone ring and then you save the number, that way you dont have to worry about it possibly being wrong

On October 05 2008 15:37 Floofy wrote: i think ill send her a text message tomorrow, and ill ask the fatty to go ask her whats up for me. but i wont call anymore this is obviously not working

I lol about how you keep calling your only friend in real life a "fatty"...

On October 05 2008 16:01 Baal wrote: Ok ill bust your bubble here and take this as absolutes truth or just realize they are in the future throu your own pain and experience: 1.- If she WANTS to call you, she will, if the girl really likes you, she will find a way to reach you, put 10 bucks in her phone, or just asking a friend to let her make a call, such a trivial thing (and also not having time rofl) would not stop anyone. 2.- Girls who dated "bad boys" and now want a "good guy" cuz she is hurt, are full of shit, yes they have been hurt but we all get hurt yet we like certain kind of people and we cannot change that, even if she is dumb enough to decieve herself into thinking she wants a shy good boy, and even if she manages to ignore that there is no chemistry and carries on with such a guy, its bound to fail always, that is not what she wants or likes. Now that being said im not saying you shouldnt call her or to let her go because of those 2 things, but keep them in mind always, try to reach her for a couple of days, if she doesnt get a hold of you let it go.

First, muh
no, if you have no time left, you sometimes cannot receive calls. at least i cant.

Baal:
well she doesnt have my phone, and no car. and doesnt talk to fatty either, so its hard to call me. her cell might be dead

oh she didnt say she wants "a good shy boy"
she just said she wants a good person. doesnt have to be shy
and i didnt appear too shy i dont think

On October 05 2008 16:04 sTrAtO wrote: I lol about how you keep calling your only friend in real life a "fatty"...

its not my only friend but i do see her more than any other of my friends atm lol

and yea i guess it is funny lol

On October 05 2008 17:10 Floofy wrote: its not my only friend but i do see her more than any other of my friends atm lol and yea i guess it is funny lol

"its not my only friend" i call your bluff and no, its not funny u dbag

huh

theres karine's brother who just sold me a guitar

theres dan, my best friend i was always with at school (we doesnt see each other much cuz he got work+gf and lives far)

theres remi, the dude who invited me to the bar where i danced with 2 chicks. he doenst go out much anymore for some random reason

other people cannot really be considered friends, i dont know them for a long time

On October 05 2008 15:37 Floofy wrote: or she listen to loud music or something

LooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooL

Floofy, have you ever tried to get in her mind once ? What'd you think if you were her ? Just think of it.

It could be either :
#1 oh sweet he called me 3 times !!!! It means that he loves me so much !
#2 Oh god wtf is up w/ that guy ? He's creppy, stalking me or something ! He's starting to seriously pissing me off, gimme a break !

It may hurts but i really do not think that #1 is what she's thinking, otherwise she'd just be an idiot and/or desperate.

You know what works best ? It's to be desirable, not the other way around.

And don't tell the "fatty" to check her, it's just one of the wrongest ideas. Ever. It's already creppy the way it is. And no it doesn't mean that you care about her, at least not in her mind.

You're just paying way too much attention on so many futiles' things.

Muhweli is mostly right on everything. Listen to him.
There's one thing that could work about being on a girl's house and asking her out or something. But not in your case because you don't know her enough or didn't make her a good impression yet (by "mouth to ears" (dunno the spelling, you know, when ppl talk about you to her with or without you knowing)). You'll get the feeling about going to a girl's house one day, but not now, and definitely not her.

The story about your date sounds like it went pretty well.

Calling her more than once in a day isn't a good idea Floofster. A couple tries over the course of a week or two would be much more appropriate. That being said if she does want to pursue this she'll find her own way to get in contact with you. Even if she is shy that girl who is being your friend is encouraging her to pursue you so that should be enough on its own. You can ask the friend whats up with her after a week has gone by if she hasn't contacted you but I would only take this course of action once. After that you've done what you should to keep up your end of the bargain. Relationships are a two way street and there is just no point in pursing anything that clearly isn't mutual.

On October 05 2008 18:19 RaiZ wrote: Floofy, have you ever tried to get in her mind once ? What'd you think if you were her ? Just think of it. It could be either : #1 oh sweet he called me 3 times !!!! It means that he loves me so much ! #2 Oh god wtf is up w/ that guy ? He's creppy, stalking me or something ! He's starting to seriously pissing me off, gimme a break ! It may hurts but i really do not think that #1 is what she's thinking, otherwise she'd just be an idiot and/or desperate. You know what works best ? It's to be desirable, not the other way around. And don't tell the "fatty" to check her, it's just one of the wrongest ideas. Ever. It's already creppy the way it is. And no it doesn't mean that you care about her, at least not in her mind. You're just paying way too much attention on so many futiles' things. Muhweli is mostly right on everything. Listen to him. There's one thing that could work about being on a girl's house and asking her out or something. But not in your case because you don't know her enough or didn't make her a good impression yet (by "mouth to ears" (dunno the spelling, you know, when ppl talk about you to her with or without you knowing)). You'll get the feeling about going to a girl's house one day, but not now, and definitely not her.

#1 obviously isnt an option
but you are forgetting options like
#3 her phone isnt working or she didnt have it with her

i mean wtf why would she let the phone ring thats stupid.

On October 05 2008 16:04 sTrAtO wrote: rule #1, at the time she gives you her phone, call her instead of opening the "add phone" application, call her, see her cellphone ring and then you save the number, that way you dont have to worry about it possibly being wrong

This is golden advice.
Goes to the category of never giving your number but always getting the girl's (that way - there won't be any "don't call me, i'll call you"- bs)

Even if they're trying to give you their number, there's a chance that they misspell it or are too drunk to know what they're doin' [Which coincidently is the group you should be going for]

im so frustrated. i think if i could pay 5K to be sure she falls in love with me i would do it

im sure it wont work tho. so frustrated

On October 05 2008 19:22 Floofy wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2008 18:19 RaiZ wrote: Floofy, have you ever tried to get in her mind once ? What'd you think if you were her ? Just think of it. It could be either : #1 oh sweet he called me 3 times !!!! It means that he loves me so much ! #2 Oh god wtf is up w/ that guy ? He's creppy, stalking me or something ! He's starting to seriously pissing me off, gimme a break ! It may hurts but i really do not think that #1 is what she's thinking, otherwise she'd just be an idiot and/or desperate. You know what works best ? It's to be desirable, not the other way around. And don't tell the "fatty" to check her, it's just one of the wrongest ideas. Ever. It's already creppy the way it is. And no it doesn't mean that you care about her, at least not in her mind. You're just paying way too much attention on so many futiles' things. Muhweli is mostly right on everything. Listen to him. There's one thing that could work about being on a girl's house and asking her out or something. But not in your case because you don't know her enough or didn't make her a good impression yet (by "mouth to ears" (dunno the spelling, you know, when ppl talk about you to her with or without you knowing)). You'll get the feeling about going to a girl's house one day, but not now, and definitely not her. #1 obviously isnt an option but you are forgetting options like #3 her phone isnt working or she didnt have it with her i mean wtf why would she let the phone ring thats stupid.

Sorry forgot the option #3 but still pretty standard to not answer. As stupid as it may sounds it happens to everybody, including myself or friends (I don't want to answer to some ppl that i just met for the 3452th time or seen them too much and want a break for example).