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[vital]Myth   United States. May 25 2008 21:52. Posts 12159 | | |
So I really appreciated all the supportive and helpful comments on my last blog entry, which basically detailed my loss of confidence during 2008 and the fact that I've been doing extremely poorly recently.
As an expression of my gratitude, for all those who support me and believe in me, I've made a $1/2 6-max video. I feel that it's moderately educational, but the production quality of it is definitely sub-par. I'll most likely make a few more videos in the near future as I continue my grind toward recovery.
The video is about 45 minutes long, with after-the-fact commentary. But you will most likely find that my style is quite a bit different from what you typically see in these games. And, actually, this video doesn't touch on many of the spots that I play differently compared to the average competitor. Here's are the links:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3EN71OL4
http://rapidshare.de/files/39525029/myth_1-2_6max_5-25-08.wmv.html
Also, I'll give a status report for those who care:
How I'm doing
I'm nearly +25 buyins at $1/2 6-max already. My winrate is solid but not great. I have been playing well but not perfectly by any means. In the beginning I was doing too much cold-4betting and also a little too much leading, and now I think I'm not doing enough 3betting or 4betting but my leading frequencies are quite good.
I've decided that I will continue to play this game until I've reached the +25 buyin goal, and then I'll switch to $1/2 9-max for the same amount of buyins. After I've cashed out the $10k (and therefore have padded my live roll for WSOP cash games), I'll move up to $2/4 and rinse-and-repeat.
What I think of the games
$1/2 is an absolute gold mine. There are dozens of games running at all hours of the day, and there are only perhaps a handful of players who give me any real trouble. If you find yourself barely beating $2/4 and $3/6, I strongly recommend just staying at $1/2 for a long while until you've cashed out so much money that you are able to play $2/4 and $3/6 fearlessly. I honestly believe that most decent players can sustain a winrate at $1/2 that is > 2x their winrate at $2/4. My opinion on that may change as I regain confidence and move on to $2/4 later, but if it does then I'll let you know.
There are easily 5x as many true fish at $1/2 as there are at $3/6. I see a huge amount of 75/40 type spewtards in the $1/2 games, whereas the majority of non-regulars in $3/6 are just nitty and play fine.
Comments on the regulars
No regs in this game really give me any trouble. Notable people who seem to have very tight/solid play are FlareMVP, Pronych, TheDarkJoker, ffguitarguy, LuxuryMaster, and xgiovannix. All of these players seem decent enough that I haven't yet found a way to exploit them too hard. LAG-tards include agstremist, dxu05, Mckittrick19, and Sweet.kr. It was a little rough going at first to figure out dxu05 and agstremist, but it turns out that dxu05 runs far too many big bluffs and agstremist has a lot of trouble finding his fold button on any street, so they're both very easy to exploit.
I can't fairly comment on any of the LPers in these games, because they play extremely differently from their normal styles when I am sitting at their tables. Kapol never cbets, gawdawful never folds, and it's really easy to predict when Big_Rob_48 won't give me credit for a hand. Kapol and Big_Rob seem really good/solid when they're not in pots with me, and gawdawful seems extremely tilty and just plain dumb for playing so many tables. (I like you Kevin, but you're retarded and you need to hear it.)
General tips for playing well in these games
1. People c-bet the flop way too much, and they don't mix up their play on the turn or river nearly enough. Because of this, you should flat call preflop, let them spew on the flop, and then let them turn their hands face-up on the turn and/or river. Proceed accordingly.
2. Adjust your preflop raise sizing due to the presence of extreme fish, which are plentiful here. If a fish is limping in and calling raises a lot, especially if you have a bad image against him, then just raise his limps to $16-20. It's critical that you maximize value against horrible players, and in these games you can really get away with a lot of non-standard stuff.
3. People basically don't ever trap, so calling is almost 100% a weak or medium strength hand. If they are just calling, make them believe.
4. Don't open 4x. Open 3xing will create a smaller pot on the flop, which leaves a lot more room behind for postflop play. Your edge comes from the postflop game, because most people have really good raising/3betting/4betting frequencies preflop. The more betting you leave for the later streets, the more mistakes you'll induce.
5. Don't ever forget: THE FISH ADAPT. Most of your 8+ tabling regulars are gonna play the same no matter what you do (because they are idiots), but there are TONS of fish in these games, and they DO adjust to the way you're playing. If you can't follow your image very closely on every table you play, then you are playing too many tables. Trust me, your winrate will skyrocket if you have a great idea of your image on each table.
Thanks for reading, and good luck at the tables! Hope you enjoyed the video also 
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thundza   United States. May 25 2008 22:04. Posts 2001 | | |
will watch soon! keep making teh moniez! gl! |
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bane   United States. May 25 2008 22:06. Posts 2379 | | |
downloading the video right now thanks a lot and as always keep it positive your going to be crushing everything in sight soon enough |
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sOah   United Kingdom. May 25 2008 22:07. Posts 4527 | | |
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sOah   United Kingdom. May 25 2008 22:10. Posts 4527 | | |
and Mckittrick19 was like an ATM with buttons lined with felt and glitter |
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You're way off on your read on some of the regulars. Several of the tight solid players are meganits(Flare, LuxuryMaster, TheDarkJoker). Luxury is like 13/9 over a huge sample. Flare is 16/12. Joker is about the same.
Mctrick19 also is 15/12 over a large sample, he just 4bets light and never folds afterward. His 4bet is always like PP of some sort or AK/AQ.
Sweet.kr calls 3bets with any suited connectors, gapped connectored and often w/ 2 gapped contectors, as well as suited aces and what not. Will stack on flop with virtually any pair/any draw. He also 4bets AK and often big pairs too, so he's extremely transparent. His leads are almost always weak. He has a hard time folding top pair/draws. Very easy to face smash. 3bet high cards and like 88+ and stack off on any good flop.
agstremist, just 3bet him with broadway cards and stack off with any pair. he's very spewy.
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shaneomac   United States. May 25 2008 22:14. Posts 4245 | | |
i missed your last blog but i reread it. as im sure u dont need any incouragement and coming from me whats it rly matter, but having talked to you about poker over the last year or so has really been one of my main motivations to keep playing and get super good. talkin poker with you makes poker fun and everything you tell me enlightens me to the fullest. you will succeed in this game, i truly believe that. i remember last year i thought the same thing when u were having bad results, although this instance completely outshines it, i still believe you will pull through ahead! i think it is a great service you are doing for making that video, and it will help SO many people. your knowledge on poker and thought process is great and i think you are a great teacher from the few times ive had you teach me. keep up the grinding man!! |
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[vital]Myth   United States. May 25 2008 22:21. Posts 12159 | | |
| On May 25 2008 21:11 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:
You're way off on your read on some of the regulars. Several of the tight solid players are meganits(Flare, LuxuryMaster, TheDarkJoker). Luxury is like 13/9 over a huge sample. Flare is 16/12. Joker is about the same.
Mctrick19 also is 15/12 over a large sample, he just 4bets light and never folds afterward. His 4bet is always like PP of some sort or AK/AQ.
Sweet.kr calls 3bets with any suited connectors, gapped connectored and often w/ 2 gapped contectors, as well as suited aces and what not. Will stack on flop with virtually any pair/any draw. He also 4bets AK and often big pairs too, so he's extremely transparent. His leads are almost always weak. He has a hard time folding top pair/draws. Very easy to face smash. 3bet high cards and like 88+ and stack off on any good flop.
agstremist, just 3bet him with broadway cards and stack off with any pair. he's very spewy.
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mckittrick 3bets me every hand like it's his job, maybe he's just cardracking against me. and the 3 guys you mentioned as meganits, yeah they are very tight but they 3bet me a lot too when my open raising is out of line, so they qualify as tight/solid in my book. |
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FlareMVP and ffguitarguy plays NL400 too. That explains things a little
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[vital]Myth   United States. May 25 2008 22:27. Posts 12159 | | |
| On May 25 2008 21:11 Forrest Gump wrote:
One of the best post I read lately. How many hands you played at NL200 already? |
like 9k, gotta merge my DBs on my laptop and desktop |
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Sheitan   Canada. May 25 2008 23:23. Posts 4217 | | |
Very nice vid myth, keep up building your confidence back. |
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I think you're being results oriented with these guys.
Mctrick 3bets most of his range though, for what it's worth. I'd 4bet TT+ for value. |
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failsafe   United States. May 26 2008 00:03. Posts 1043 | | |
you're probably the sole reason i read or care at all about poker. definitely be victorious. |
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pinbaLL   Sweden. May 26 2008 00:09. Posts 7243 | | |
watching now. solid voice!
why would u ever turn the a9o hand after like 3 mins into a bluff on the turn? i understand the reasoning if u floated him with nothing but -,- |
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iandeezy   United States. May 26 2008 00:13. Posts 317 | | |
thanks for the video man... glad to hear you are seeing winning days again. |
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Silver_nz   New Zealand. May 26 2008 00:14. Posts 5647 | | |
PRAISE THE LORD!

excellent video, possibly on the same level as legendary vids of Mez at NL200 and cts at NL200. I'm going to watch it till I've memorized it all, then donate lots of money mis-applying the concepts until I figure them out.
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Silver_nz   New Zealand. May 26 2008 00:16. Posts 5647 | | |
^ myth advice always loses me lot of money at first but later on my thinking becomes clearer. |
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Silver_nz   New Zealand. May 26 2008 00:17. Posts 5647 | | |
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[vital]Myth   United States. May 26 2008 00:35. Posts 12159 | | |
| On May 25 2008 23:09 pinbaLL wrote:
watching now. solid voice!
why would u ever turn the a9o hand after like 3 mins into a bluff on the turn? i understand the reasoning if u floated him with nothing but -,- |
i was like 99.9% certain i had the best hand after he led the turn so fast, i wasn't bluffing
also, i figured he either had complete air, which was irrelevant, or a flush draw, which might call the smallish turn raise |
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[vital]Myth   United States. May 26 2008 00:43. Posts 12159 | | |
also a little more about the AQ hand:
1. he NEVER has a pocket pair and probably doesn't even have that many hands that contain a jack, because he didn't shove preflop
2. he is pretty unlikely to overbet shove with a legit hand other than a good semibluff
3. he is NEVER doing anything on the flop except shoving or raising smaller and calling a shove, so if he did raise smaller (like to 40 or 50) i might actually have folded figuring i had 26% showdown value and no fold equity, but when he shoves i know i'm good, or if he flopped a pair then it's a sick cooler and i have 7-8 outs anyway (backdoor straight draws)
therefore K8ss is like, absolute nuts in his range
i feel like people are gonna think i got really lucky to be getting my money in appropriately with AQ high (i was behind, but sick overlay from the preflop action), but i strongly stand by my play |
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[vital]Myth   United States. May 26 2008 00:45. Posts 12159 | | |
| On May 25 2008 23:01 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:
I think you're being results oriented with these guys.
Mctrick 3bets most of his range though, for what it's worth. I'd 4bet TT+ for value. |
results oriented? i don't really see how it's "results oriented" to observe that somebody 3bets me a lot
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| On May 25 2008 23:45 [vital]Myth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2008 23:01 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:
I think you're being results oriented with these guys.
Mctrick 3bets most of his range though, for what it's worth. I'd 4bet TT+ for value. |
results oriented? i don't really see how it's "results oriented" to observe that somebody 3bets me a lot
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Are you serious?
If somebody is getting good cards and thus is 3betting you a lot as opposed to actually 3betting you lightly, what does that mean? Maybe results oriented is the wrong word to use for it but =/ Sometimes meganits start 3betting me a ton too. And then they won't 3bet me for like 2 hours.
I don't really know what else to call it. You're reacting to the fact that they're probably getting good cards given the kind of player that they are, as opposed to what they are actually doing. Results oriented seemed appropriate. |
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[vital]Myth   United States. May 26 2008 01:15. Posts 12159 | | |
yeh flatting the A9 on turn prob best, i def didn't think i was bluffing though. but yeah you're right
and actually i see random donks make the worst possible spews in pots that were 4bet small preflop, this is super standard for me and yes i see a million geeks shove ATC here. agree that a case can be made for 4betting larger pre or betting a normal amount on the flop even, but i like to do crazy unorthodox stuff that either makes me look like the sickest soul-reader or the sickest spewfish, depending on how the money goes in. either one is great for image. |
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lostaccount   Canada. May 26 2008 01:36. Posts 6309 | | |
myth you are bring the noise back, gonna dl the vod asap. |
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Baalim   Mexico. May 26 2008 01:43. Posts 34291 | | |
o_o is it up in another location, i cant download from megacrap |
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SneakrFreakr   United Kingdom. May 26 2008 01:47. Posts 2534 | | |
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. May 26 2008 01:48. Posts 8918 | | |
mcktrick is like 14/12 for me, I hardly even notice him when I play, I guess he has tilty days or w/e.
I think it was a pretty good vid, especially for it being your first narration (props for using the word narration in a vid :D ) |
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SneakrFreakr   United Kingdom. May 26 2008 01:51. Posts 2534 | | |
http://mihd.net (200mb file limit, very fast, no waiting, no ads, no download limits)
http://prml.org (1gb file size limit, very fast, no waiting, no ads, no download limits) |
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. May 26 2008 01:52. Posts 8918 | | |
Just use the firefox addon that cracks megaupload and gg |
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Siro   Australia. May 26 2008 02:03. Posts 1540 | | |
nice vid and write up
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The72o   Zimbabwe. May 26 2008 02:09. Posts 6112 | | |
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Oly   United Kingdom. May 26 2008 02:36. Posts 3585 | | |
Wow that was a great vid, thanks myth.
One question... Early on you raise QTo over a limper whom you expect to give you no credit, and flop top pair, cb and get called. The turn brings a flushdraw and a lot of pair and straightdraws to a large part of his range (I think the board came down something like T625cc) and won't scare the remainder of his flop calling range, and you instacheck behind like it's standard. Why not take him for 3 streets?
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SneakrFreakr   United Kingdom. May 26 2008 02:57. Posts 2534 | | |
| On May 26 2008 00:52 EvilSky wrote:
Just use the firefox addon that cracks megaupload and gg |
tried that already. doesn't help. that's what i keep getting when i click on myth's link:
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[vital]Myth   United States. May 26 2008 03:06. Posts 12159 | | |
| On May 26 2008 01:36 Oly wrote:
Wow that was a great vid, thanks myth.
One question... Early on you raise QTo over a limper whom you expect to give you no credit, and flop top pair, cb and get called. The turn brings a flushdraw and a lot of pair and straightdraws to a large part of his range (I think the board came down something like T625cc) and won't scare the remainder of his flop calling range, and you instacheck behind like it's standard. Why not take him for 3 streets?
Good luck in the comback... |
didn't think he would give me 3 streets, wanted to get value on river from something retarded like 88 |
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[vital]Myth   United States. May 26 2008 03:07. Posts 12159 | | |
but if i had a worse image or i felt that he was more spewy, i would go for 3 streets for sure. and actually i prob shoulda gone for 3 streets against that geek too |
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lachlan   Australia. May 26 2008 03:09. Posts 6991 | | |
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Kapol   Poland. May 26 2008 03:33. Posts 4696 | | |
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lachlan   Australia. May 26 2008 03:34. Posts 6991 | | |
myth please make a full ring one... please please please! |
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lachlan   Australia. May 26 2008 03:57. Posts 6991 | | |
yay. just finished it and heard the part where u said ur gonna make a 1/2 FR vid. thanks |
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. May 26 2008 05:05. Posts 8918 | | |
| On May 26 2008 01:57 SneakrFreakr wrote:
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Just use the firefox addon that cracks megaupload and gg |
tried that already. doesn't help. that's what i keep getting when i click on myth's link:

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Thats weird... do you have megaupload 3 in your tools menu ? Did you enable it before opening that page ? |
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royalsu   Canada. May 26 2008 05:06. Posts 3233 | | |
| On May 26 2008 01:36 Oly wrote:
Wow that was a great vid, thanks myth.
One question... Early on you raise QTo over a limper whom you expect to give you no credit, and flop top pair, cb and get called. The turn brings a flushdraw and a lot of pair and straightdraws to a large part of his range (I think the board came down something like T625cc) and won't scare the remainder of his flop calling range, and you instacheck behind like it's standard. Why not take him for 3 streets?
Good luck in the comback... |
i really thought you should have considered raising the river at least after you take that line. His bet screams blocking bet. And since he gives you no credit he'd happily call another 28$ imo. |
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[vital]Myth   United States. May 26 2008 05:30. Posts 12159 | | |
| On May 26 2008 04:06 royalsu wrote:
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Wow that was a great vid, thanks myth.
One question... Early on you raise QTo over a limper whom you expect to give you no credit, and flop top pair, cb and get called. The turn brings a flushdraw and a lot of pair and straightdraws to a large part of his range (I think the board came down something like T625cc) and won't scare the remainder of his flop calling range, and you instacheck behind like it's standard. Why not take him for 3 streets?
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i really thought you should have considered raising the river at least after you take that line. His bet screams blocking bet. And since he gives you no credit he'd happily call another 28$ imo.
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don't really think there's much value in a raise against him, he's either guaranteed to fold all his worse hands, or he's only betting a range that is mostly better hands in the first place |
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hkbubbletea   Canada. May 26 2008 10:22. Posts 1575 | | |
excellent video and lots of info. |
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TianYuan   Korea (South). Jun 09 2008 12:14. Posts 6817 | | |
LOL the AQ minbet/snapcall was AWESOME xD |
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SemPeR   Canada. Jun 25 2008 10:07. Posts 2288 | | |
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sabulous   Canada. Dec 02 2008 03:38. Posts 208 | | |
great video plz make more! |
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newbie.cjb   United States. Jul 20 2010 00:27. Posts 3096 | | |
| On May 25 2008 23:16 Silver_nz wrote:
^ myth advice always loses me lot of money at first but later on my thinking becomes clearer. |
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