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lachlan   Australia. Aug 30 2008 02:31. Posts 6991 | | |
for sure.
hey are there any other speeches worth watching? i watched kerry's, kucinich's and Obama's 2004 one. any others worth it? |
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k2o4   United States. Aug 30 2008 03:01. Posts 4803 | | |
Hmm, Obama's 08 speech was really good.
Bill clinton was good too. I liked michelles speech as well.
And richardson and the montana guy were also good. hehe. Honestly, I say everything I posted was fun, but those 4 were also pretty good. If you followed the entire primary drama then hillary's was nice too.
Richardson/montana guy were hard on mccain. Clinton was kinda unity/hit mccain. Michelle was inspiring/american dream/a diff perspective on barack. |
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Brett, I think you're entirely out of touch with reality if you think gun owners, people who enjoy hunting, fishing, and do blue collar work, union members, and enjoy simple living are a small sliver of the public.
Hell, I'd vote for Palin for President if the ticket were the other way around. You want a radical change? She sure as hell would be one. Honest, hardworking, never been in Washington, short but brilliant record against corruption; not in anyway a partisan hack, genuinely family oriented and, unlike Hillary, it doesn't frighten me to look at her! |
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k2o4   United States. Aug 30 2008 14:39. Posts 4803 | | |
| On August 30 2008 11:13 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Brett, I think you're entirely out of touch with reality if you think gun owners, people who enjoy hunting, fishing, and do blue collar work, union members, and enjoy simple living are a small sliver of the public.
Hell, I'd vote for Palin for President if the ticket were the other way around. You want a radical change? She sure as hell would be one. Honest, hardworking, never been in Washington, short but brilliant record against corruption; not in anyway a partisan hack, genuinely family oriented and, unlike Hillary, it doesn't frighten me to look at her! |
When I said small sliver I meant ex Hillary supporters who were still undecided. It's looking more and more like she appeals to the far right which I didn't know at the time, and is more here to shore up the base. I do agree that gun owners/hunters/fishers will probably like her, but I have a hard time believing she'll make any significant difference with blue collar workers and union members.
I don't get it - Obama was too inexperienced to be president and was not ready to lead, but Palin (who is younger and has a shorter record than Obama) is a-ok? And considering how old McCain is and that he's had past health issues, his VP has a high chance of becoming president. Now I am not saying that she gets an auto thumbs down cause she has less experience - I don't believe in that. But it's so weird that republicans will bitch and moan about not enough experience from Obama so he can't be prez, but it doesn't bug em to have a VP with even less experience. Maybe the argument is that "it's VP, not the Prez, so it's different" but I feel that with a prez who has such a high chance of not finishing his full term that the VP is VERY important.
I believe that experience is not as important as good judgment, good sound decision making, and the ability to hear all sides of an issue and come to an informed decision which respects all parties involved. I believe Obama has all those qualities and is smart enough to surround himself with very experienced people from both sides of the aisles and then take in all of their advice and reach smart conclusions. I also believe Obama has the ability to inspire people to love their country even more and take action to serve it, to come together and work for a greater future for the entire country. For me those things make up for the lack of experience. Plus, I do feel like he's had a decent amount of experience, though obviously not as long as many other politicians.
In comparison I think Palin has much less experience, to the point where I'm thinking "errr, this is pretty thin". I also don't see that same judgment. She doesn't believe in global warming. That's scary to me. She's very anti-abortion and is against exemptions for rape and the health of the mother. She's also wrapped up in an investigation into abuse of power, and after Cheney I've had enough power abusing VP shit to last me a life time.
Anyway, here's my little fact list I've been able to put together so far:
Former Beauty Queen
Star point guard
Sports reporter
Married HS sweetheart
5 kids
Oldest son heading to iraq on 9/11
Youngest son bon premature with down syndrome
Started in PTA
elected to city council
Mayor of small home town (8,471)
Govenor 2 years
Anti-corruption
Anti-Spending
Pro-Accountability
Pro-Life
Pro-Drilling in ANWAR
Pro-taking polar bears off endangered species list
Does not believe global warming is man made
Pro-Senator Ted Stevens bridge to nowhere before she was against it
Being investigated for abuse of power
Most popular governor in country (over 90% approval rating in alaska)
Enjoys moose as favorite meat
Husband is part eskimo (cool)
Called hillary clinton a "whiner"
rabid conservative
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