UB Scandal part 2 Phil Hellmuth - Page 2

LMFAO

I'm on the phone with the support. The fist lady I talked to was super nice, but had me so tilted. She was like "Oh, you had three of a kind, very nice!" I'm like wtf!?!?!

phil is always whining about how online sux and live rocks, maybe the aspect he misses is dealers fucking up

so i didn't want to read a 50 page 2+2 thread

in what way was it shown that phil is cheating?

T2s doesnt make any sense at all in this hand, are u sure its the real hand history ? And whoever play on UB deserves to get his money scammed imo

On December 21 2008 20:29 asdf2000 wrote: so i didn't want to read a 50 page 2+2 thread in what way was it shown that phil is cheating?

he had the losing hand and still won the pot
then the software tried to keep the guy off the table, and phil tried to downplay the hand like nothing happened

this would be a very stupid way to cheat.It just shows what a crappy software they have and how little they can be trusted

Kinda blosw how there is some bit of bad news in poker every other week.

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/9158/ub2ai2.jpg

https://www.pokertableratings.com/rep...absolute&id=1162170993&hash=418635327

Anyway it seems impossible that it's a bug. Though the situation very much resembles a bug it would have to mean if the situation was recreated it could happen again. Considering this has never happened in billions of hands, and now it's happening when it is Phil Hellmuth playing his odd 200 online hands, AND that it is happening on UB the shadiest site on the web, pretty much means it has to be something else.

This is insane though. I've always held the believe that pokersites are too profitable so that they wouldn't risk cheating. If UB considers this worth it then it scares me to play on some of the smaller lesser known networks that aren't yet making profits.

On December 21 2008 20:39 lebowski wrote: this would be a very stupid way to cheat.It just shows what a crappy software they have and how little they can be trusted

argh dont you people get it? this is the first time that has happened and it turns out it was witht he owner of the site, and in his favour?


its obviously too blatant, however it shows that he probably has control of the hole cards, but something went wrong there and blowed his cover.

On December 21 2008 21:01 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On December 21 2008 20:39 lebowski wrote: this would be a very stupid way to cheat.It just shows what a crappy software they have and how little they can be trusted argh dont you people get it? this is the first time that has happened and it turns out it was witht he owner of the site, and in his favour? its obviously too blatant, however it shows that he probably has control of the hole cards, but something went wrong there and blowed his cover.

It's still kind of weird though. Superusers could see opponents holecards. Why would he try to win the pot when his opponent was holding trips.

i think phil hellmuth is retarded but ud have to be amazingly retarded to try to steal this pot on purppsose.

i'd guess this is an elaborate level and there is nothing to see here

The most obvious reason would be some insiders trying to take the company down, but with the idiocy they have shown before on UB I guess it could be PH's superuser software glicthing

On December 21 2008 21:08 MezmerizePLZ wrote: i'd guess this is an elaborate level and there is nothing to see here

looks legit actually lol

On December 21 2008 21:08 MezmerizePLZ wrote: i'd guess this is an elaborate level and there is nothing to see here

possible, but the hand is recorded on table-ratings

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...E0gxLgBy97c%3D

hand 23

in all honesty though, i doubt phil would purposely do this to win a measly few grand. i think it just brings to light the quality of the companies soft-ware.

think about how many million phil is worth, i doubt he'd attempt to cheat in an obv. horribly played hand, for a few thousand when he knows he has tons of railbirds watching his every move

On December 21 2008 21:03 Nazgul wrote: Show nested quote + On December 21 2008 21:01 Baal wrote:   On December 21 2008 20:39 lebowski wrote: this would be a very stupid way to cheat.It just shows what a crappy software they have and how little they can be trusted argh dont you people get it? this is the first time that has happened and it turns out it was witht he owner of the site, and in his favour? its obviously too blatant, however it shows that he probably has control of the hole cards, but something went wrong there and blowed his cover. It's still kind of weird though. Superusers could see opponents holecards. Why would he try to win the pot when his opponent was holding trips.

it was a programming failure WHILE cheating, like if he could alter the HH with his holecards but something went wrong and it showed his real holecards

i dont see why he would cheat like that on a site that has superusers, the evidence does point that way though

On December 21 2008 20:35 Bigbobm wrote: Show nested quote + On December 21 2008 20:29 asdf2000 wrote: so i didn't want to read a 50 page 2+2 thread in what way was it shown that phil is cheating? he had the losing hand and still won the pot then the software tried to keep the guy off the table, and phil tried to downplay the hand like nothing happened

ok, but how is it that this shows that PHIL is cheating. it just shows that the site is fucked up (which is scary in itself).

you would have to be literally mentally retarded to try to get away with cheating that way....

god ub/absolute are soo freaking shady, they are ruining it for every grinder/other site

whenever i play live with the fish at the casino, all they can say is 'i told you so', and that they'll never play online again

most of them actually think they personally were scammed