UB Scandal part 2 Phil Hellmuth - Page 5

On December 21 2008 23:48 Baal wrote: Again people this is obv not a cheat working properly, but either making a human error while cheating, or the client is bugged in the cheat, that is extremely evident.

I really do think it's a bug. Hellmuth is INSANELY rich and to ruin his poker career / reputation just for a pot at these stakes is ridiculous.

Why someone would be daft enough to put money onto UB / AP after the first incident is beyond me.

There are plenty of other better or equal sites with far cleaner reputations.

As for this though, who knows? It seems pretty retarded to cheat in such a blatant manner, but it's hell dodgy for the reasons Baal explains.

Just another reason to avoid these networks.

Why someone would be daft enough to put money onto UB / AP after the first incident is beyond me.

By now most forum regulars and people who know how to play poker have cashed out their money from this network. That leaves you with all the fish.

On December 22 2008 01:08 TheHuHu3 wrote: I really do think it's a bug. Hellmuth is INSANELY rich and to ruin his poker career / reputation just for a pot at these stakes is ridiculous.

Hellmuth has shown many times that he hates online poker players, so why not taking his revenge stealing money from them?.

how on earth can a computer proggy make a mistake like this without having the option to manipulate results in some way? this is definitely a cheat of some sort on the server's end unfortunately

I'm sure he can't sleep thinking about his next attack to the online players

Hellmuth is INSANELY retarded if u ask me and nothing that he d do would suprise me ....There are many things he's done that d ruin his reputation in some way.Most of them are tilting on TV tables like in the WSOP calling the guy IDIOT FROM NORTH EUROPE or something like that.He was obviously tilted by this guy ( in the LHE hu ) and his reactions after the hand make everything even more suspicious.Chances of all this being a coincidence would be 5% at max

Of course we cant know for sure he was cheating, but this is extremely shady at best and I hope that site just goes busto once and for all so it can be forgotten.

What a joke these people are... totally disregarding what the reasons for this latest fiasco are, the rest of the poker business should hire a squad of goons with bats to methodically beat up all of UB's management to death and trash their servers into bits and pieces

On December 21 2008 21:01 Nazgul wrote: This is insane though. I've always held the believe that pokersites are too profitable so that they wouldn't risk cheating. If UB considers this worth it then it scares me to play on some of the smaller lesser known networks that aren't yet making profits.

"Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed."

why is everyone assuming Hellmuth is crazy rich, for all we know hes a hardcore coke addict who has blown every cent hes ever made and is now desperate, unless you know him personally or have seen his latest bank statement who knows how much cash he has left

lol this is pretty funny, agree with freak that this could simply be just a bug but it does seem a little funny for it to happen to hellmuth

like baal said: Too many coincidences in this incident. Fuck them, never ever will I play on their fucking site.

On December 22 2008 06:44 TedHastings wrote: why is everyone assuming Hellmuth is crazy rich, for all we know hes a hardcore coke addict who has blown every cent hes ever made and is now desperate, unless you know him personally or have seen his latest bank statement who knows how much cash he has left

Because that's what everybody who has ever talked about Phil in interviews has said. It's not like the poker world is a particularly private one.

On December 21 2008 23:48 Baal wrote: Again people this is obv a cheat not working properly, either making a human error while cheating, or the client is bugged in the cheat, that is extremely evident.

there is some cereus shit goin on here

the traffic despite the merging was really poor and now this shit occured, i bet Cereus will go broke sooner or later and that happened when they were declaring about their top priority to security... This forces me to cashout my money, despite i really love their fast software.