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phexac   United States. Dec 22 2008 09:40. Posts 2563 | | |
UB already said it would reimburse him, so really doesn't look like that great a deal. Seeing as there are no complaints all over the web about losing money to this sort of mistake, it's clearly an isolated incident. I strongly doubt that this is the next great cheating scandal. Looks like a simple error that has already been taken care of to me. |
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AcroN   Norway. Dec 22 2008 10:04. Posts 568 | | |
Way to go Phil, what a fucking joke |
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Baalim   Mexico. Dec 22 2008 10:46. Posts 34302 | | |
LOL Freak, its possible....
Its possible im a fucking alien typing from a space ship, there is an actual chance, however its so ridiculously low we assume its stupid to believe so.
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all_in_4tw   Canada. Dec 22 2008 11:53. Posts 4515 | | |
some1 posted an interesting theory on 2+2
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Suppose it isn't a 'sitting out' routine at all, but a 'start next hand' routine. Suppose the software actually launches the next hand before this one even ends, but the showdown code runs so fast that it normally clears before the code running the next hand contacts the machines.
So at the end of the code you have something like
AT SHOWDOWN {
SEND HANDS TO HAND ANALYSIS ROUTINE
START NEXT HAND
GENERATE HH
SEND RESULTS TO PLAYERS
CLOSE HAND
}
At the start of the code is some housework, that used to take longer than the last three processes above, so that by the time the machines are asked to start the next hand, they would already be clearing away the last one.
But with the new larger network, the system can't cope. The hand analysis routine is struggling to keep up. So the code for the next hand contacts DB's machine to find out whether he wants to play hand #002, and DB's machine sends back that he can't - he still hasn't finished hand #001. The server interprets this as a failure to post blinds. It tries again, and the same thing happens. Then a third time. Now the server tells DB's machine that he's being sat out for failure to post blinds. From then on, it is as I say above. He gets sat out of hand #001 instead of hand #002, with the odd result that he loses a hand he should have won, because of the array thing.
I think this theory might explain everything. Maybe. |
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Baalim   Mexico. Dec 22 2008 12:29. Posts 34302 | | |
| On December 22 2008 10:53 all_in_4tw wrote:
some1 posted an interesting theory on 2+2
Show nested quote +
Suppose it isn't a 'sitting out' routine at all, but a 'start next hand' routine. Suppose the software actually launches the next hand before this one even ends, but the showdown code runs so fast that it normally clears before the code running the next hand contacts the machines.
So at the end of the code you have something like
AT SHOWDOWN {
SEND HANDS TO HAND ANALYSIS ROUTINE
START NEXT HAND
GENERATE HH
SEND RESULTS TO PLAYERS
CLOSE HAND
}
At the start of the code is some housework, that used to take longer than the last three processes above, so that by the time the machines are asked to start the next hand, they would already be clearing away the last one.
But with the new larger network, the system can't cope. The hand analysis routine is struggling to keep up. So the code for the next hand contacts DB's machine to find out whether he wants to play hand #002, and DB's machine sends back that he can't - he still hasn't finished hand #001. The server interprets this as a failure to post blinds. It tries again, and the same thing happens. Then a third time. Now the server tells DB's machine that he's being sat out for failure to post blinds. From then on, it is as I say above. He gets sat out of hand #001 instead of hand #002, with the odd result that he loses a hand he should have won, because of the array thing.
I think this theory might explain everything. Maybe. |
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That is interesting.... if you are a fucking retard who fail to see this happened in favour of the owner of the site who has backgrounds on cheating and played T2 in an illogical fucking way lol. |
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mikeymoo   Canada. Dec 22 2008 12:30. Posts 988 | | |
Although that may explain how the software bugs up, the fact that it has not happened to anybody else but Phil Hellmuth in an isolated incident leads me to agree with Baal on pretty much everything he has already said. |
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Baalim   Mexico. Dec 22 2008 12:39. Posts 34302 | | |
yeah also the fact he had T2s which made no sense whatsoever and the fact he tried to dodge it like it didnt happen instead of being like "whoa wtf just happened".
Sure u can make dumb ratinoalizations of those both things like "well he sux at poker" and "well he didnt want to bring attention to his buggy site"...
However those rationalizations just pull you away even more from common sense that is screaming at your face "CHEAT!" |
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collegesucks   United States. Dec 22 2008 12:52. Posts 5780 | | |
| On December 22 2008 11:39 Baal wrote:
yeah also the fact he had T2s which made no sense whatsoever and the fact he tried to dodge it like it didnt happen instead of being like "whoa wtf just happened".
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the way he reacted to the situation tells me he fucked up 100%
"OMG WTF LOL HOW DO I PLAY THIS OFF?... YEAH I GOTTA ACT CALM"
...scum |
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collegesucks   United States. Dec 22 2008 12:54. Posts 5780 | | |
seriously, what a shady fucking dude |
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collegesucks   United States. Dec 22 2008 12:57. Posts 5780 | | |
cmon guys
there's really no point in wasting time rationalizing and legitimizing this scandal when the blatant truth is slapping you in the face. |
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barbieman   Sweden. Dec 22 2008 13:03. Posts 2132 | | |
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Syntax   United States. Dec 22 2008 13:42. Posts 4415 | | |
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Sheitan   Canada. Dec 22 2008 13:53. Posts 4217 | | |
Honey, this donk called my raise i had T2 suited and when i try to change my hole cards to AK so i can ship the pot the system fucks up MOTHERF#$#$@#$@#$#@$@#$ calling my raises with KQ MOTHERF#$#@#$#@$#@$@#$@#$ donks. |
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collegesucks   United States. Dec 22 2008 14:03. Posts 5780 | | |
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looserSR   Slovakia. Dec 22 2008 15:11. Posts 95 | | |
| On December 22 2008 12:53 Sheitan wrote:
Honey, this donk called my raise i had T2 suited and when i try to change my hole cards to AK so i can ship the pot the system fucks up MOTHERF#$#$@#$@#$#@$@#$ calling my raises with KQ MOTHERF#$#@#$#@$#@$@#$@#$ donks. |
looooooooool |
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TBB   United States. Dec 22 2008 16:28. Posts 781 | | |
Meh, either way, Phil is scum, and nobody with a brain should put money on a site as sketchy as UB. What's gonna happen there next? |
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Zorglub   Denmark. Dec 22 2008 17:07. Posts 2870 | | |
Now suddenly more bugs are showing up, one guy won a hand without any cards, he was sitting out. If none of these bugs happened before the PH hand it looks like they are deliberately making bugs now to grasp the only straw they have left "It all happened when we merged it is just a bug in the software".
But games are still running...
Fuck these guys they are hurting online poker more than anyone, even more than the UIEGA and we cant do anything to stop them.
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. Dec 22 2008 17:27. Posts 8918 | | |
Im seriously thinking about taking a shot and playing there,I mean honestly I think I could make a pretty good profit avoiding fishy situations as they come and playing with all the plethora of fish left. The only thing that stops me is I dont want to support that shitty site :/ |
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Baalim   Mexico. Dec 22 2008 17:35. Posts 34302 | | |
| On December 22 2008 16:27 EvilSky wrote:
Im seriously thinking about taking a shot and playing there,I mean honestly I think I could make a pretty good profit avoiding fishy situations as they come and playing with all the plethora of fish left. The only thing that stops me is I dont want to support that shitty site :/ |
lol moron |
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