people scammed by dino

I knew him on SC from years back and I don't really talk to him much but today he msged me telling me hes going to pay back the people he scammed I don't know if hes really going to or not but can't hurt to post this here if it can help some people get their money back he says to msg him @ zergie123@hotmail.com

Probably wants to scam more people.

Can't believe I ever was nice to this guy:

From: Dkent001 Posts: 143 Subject: Re: Hello Date: 10/30 06:28 haha. Well, I just got the idea when that guy bought my acc. matches are just more fun for money =) Thanks for the advice and being fair D ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Heh I'm not even getting into all this, I'll edit my post but please do not ask for starcraft matches with your rep on any liquid site just my piece of advice. Twisted ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Why would you want to ban me when you don't even know me? You just listen to propaganda people post on teamliquid.net. You may not know, but I have many friends and even fans, but they all just happen to get banned on teamliquid.net. If you ever checked gosugamers.net, you'd see that I'm a member of MgZ), unbanned from WGT, and playing in division 1 in wgtcl. I've only ever been caught cheating in 1 league, and it was division 4 wgtcl. Everything else you've heard about me is probably untrue. For example, G5 posted fake screenshots of me "selling an iccup oblivion" hack. I can't even defend myself on teamliquid.net, and if any of my friends do, they get banned. Fair world huh? Please don't post to ban me, as I did nothing to wrong you, and just want to improve my poker. Have a nice day. Dino

I hope he really does pay people back, and then never asks anyone for a stake or a loan or an xfer or anything.

you gotta be really desperate and pathetic to scam people like that, especially being semi-known ....

He's delusional if he thinks he'd be forgiven just by paying back the money.


That would be like shoplifting, getting caught, then arguing "What's the deal, I gave back the shit I took!", or "Alright I'll pay for the shit I lifted, now let me go plz". You're still a criminal and will forever be known as one.

In fact, wouldn't something like this be constituted as fraud? He could probably be punished by law for this, with the amount of evidence there is for his actions.


I honestly dont think he even understands the magnitude of betraying an entire community's trust.

he paid me back already. he's off my "people-to-kill" list lol

what was it he did? =o

I think he sold a pt3 key to like 10 different people and maybe something else gotta find the thread

he hacked too!!!1!

lol roto


he also pretended to be a girl in the process, which I find hilarious.

believe it or not... i actually saw him skin a little kitten alive... but that was a while back

On February 03 2009 22:11 Uptown wrote: lol roto he also pretended to be a girl in the process, which I find hilarious.

THAT WASN'T TIFFANY!?!?!?!!!?!?!? I will never believe anyone saying they're a girl on the internet again!

On January 24 2009 18:50 SfydjkLm wrote: Show nested quote + On January 24 2009 02:54 ohsospiffay wrote: Uptown, you have like 8 purely trolling my thread. Don't call me sir, I'm a lady. Oh yeah, im a lady too.

I CALLED IT!

On February 03 2009 18:10 whamm! wrote: he paid me back already. he's off my "people-to-kill" list lol

Yeah, same here. I would suggest folks who were scammed to msg him.

that is really weird... he should post in here explaining himself.

i never liked that guy , he was a hacker at bw and even a loser with hack lol dont worry python karma will give him what he deserve

he pay back me too, thats what he said
2009-02-04 15:26 I just wanted to say I'm sorry for everything that happened with PT3
2009-02-04 15:26 David I never meant to scam you or anyone else
2009-02-04 15:27 David I hope you can understand that
2009-02-04 15:27 David It wasn't an ill intention, I just had a key that I thought would work forever, and I planned on making some extra money for my

yup guy is a loser, hi darki

On February 04 2009 09:30 MysticJoey wrote: yup guy is a loser, hi darki

sup 8 )

Dino paid my money back and apologized.

Anyone who says they "have fans" deserves to get banned for that alone.

i have fans in my computer

On February 04 2009 10:49 Maynard! wrote: Anyone who says they "have fans" deserves to get banned for that alone.

lol, i can't believe i missed that part, and i second your post, unless you are Elky or mig

edit: or echo <3

EVERYONE HERE ACCEPTING CHECKS FROM DINO , BEFORE YOU ACCEPT A QUICK CHECK , CHECK WITH ME

1-800-JeOnBart

lol

Dino introduced himself to me on LP a few days before all this shit started

I'll taught him for 3-4 days (letting him ob me play FR and 6max and helping him with SnG's)

Then I find this out from a message from uptown saying : i heard you've been associating with that scammer hacker dino (at this point im like WTF, I thought this guy was x sc just learning poker..hes been lieing to me as well? figures)

So i was in the process of cutting all ties with him, i sent him a message on MSN and got the bottom of this.

Heres the MSN convo, judge him as you may. IMO He might have had intentions to scam those people, and maybe not. He seems sorry for what he did though (although I take his word with a grain of salt), but I still highly doubt I would ever help that guy out again.

BTW - I gave him til the 15th to pay everyone back, he did it much faster (idk how)

PS - If he scammed you and you haven't recieved the money, take a screen shot of your 14 or 30 day history and post a screen shot. He will pay it all.

At the bottom is a poll. Apparently he has paid everyone back

OK heres the msn convo

1/27/2009 9:56:34 AM Ryan David david, i cant fucking believe you are scamming ppl on LP. I am finished HELPING YOU with ANYTHING, YOU STOLE $300 FROM LOW STAKES PLAYERS ON LIQUIDPOKER, HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL? How the FUCK do you sleep at night? You are so fucking banned from LP, my MSN, and we're going to do our best to ban you from PS (LP has tight connections with stars affiliates)
1/27/2009 9:57:05 AM Ryan David I cant believe your a piece of trash scammer like this. you better learn some fucking ethics quick before someone offs you
1/27/2009 7:33:48 PM David Ryan dude Ryan
1/27/2009 7:33:55 PM David Ryan I didn't mean to steal shit
1/27/2009 7:34:01 PM Ryan David dude
1/27/2009 7:34:03 PM Ryan David u are fucked.
1/27/2009 7:34:04 PM David Ryan and I intend to pay it back
1/27/2009 7:34:08 PM Ryan David i don't wanna hear any of this shit.
1/27/2009 7:34:10 PM Ryan David pay it back.
1/27/2009 7:34:12 PM David Ryan of course
1/27/2009 7:34:16 PM David Ryan well, I thought it'd work
1/27/2009 7:34:19 PM David Ryan cuz it wokred like 40 times
1/27/2009 7:34:31 PM Ryan David lp is like family to me man!
1/27/2009 7:34:36 PM Ryan David i can't associate with you
1/27/2009 7:34:39 PM Ryan David after you did that to them.
1/27/2009 7:34:40 PM Ryan David fix it
1/27/2009 7:34:43 PM Ryan David and i will help you again
1/27/2009 7:34:50 PM Ryan David thats all i can say
1/27/2009 7:34:52 PM David Ryan well, I'm not just fixing it for that reason
1/27/2009 7:35:05 PM David Ryan it's just wrong
1/27/2009 7:35:13 PM David Ryan I really didn't think that the codes would stop working
1/27/2009 7:35:17 PM Ryan David you should fix it cuz you should have some principles, some morals, and u should realize these are ppl you will be partying with and playing with in vegas in a couple years if you get your shit straight
1/27/2009 7:35:37 PM Ryan David this isn't just scamming some idiots on the internet
1/27/2009 7:35:52 PM Ryan David your also ex-sc
1/27/2009 7:35:52 PM David Ryan well, I really didn't mean to scam anyway
1/27/2009 7:35:53 PM Ryan David this is like
1/27/2009 7:35:56 PM Ryan David so wrong for lp
1/27/2009 7:35:58 PM David Ryan I know it's fucked
1/27/2009 7:35:59 PM Ryan David u told me
1/27/2009 7:36:01 PM Ryan David u were like hellmuth
1/27/2009 7:36:02 PM Ryan David but seirously
1/27/2009 7:36:13 PM Ryan David this is way out of line, some of these ppl are nl10 and nl25 players
1/27/2009 7:36:16 PM Ryan David $50 is alot to them
1/27/2009 7:36:18 PM David Ryan yea..
1/27/2009 7:36:24 PM Ryan David other people are the mirrors of you and me
1/27/2009 7:36:30 PM Ryan David they are the same as you and me and should be treated the same
1/27/2009 7:36:34 PM Ryan David imagine if you had $130 on stars
1/27/2009 7:36:36 PM Ryan David and u really wanted PT3
1/27/2009 7:36:39 PM Ryan David and osmeone sells it to you
1/27/2009 7:36:39 PM David Ryan yea
1/27/2009 7:36:41 PM Ryan David and now u have $80
1/27/2009 7:36:44 PM Ryan David and then it doesnt work
1/27/2009 7:36:45 PM David Ryan well, tha'ts how I bought it in the first place
1/27/2009 7:36:47 PM Ryan David and they cant get it back
1/27/2009 7:36:50 PM Ryan David thats really messed up man
1/27/2009 7:36:53 PM David Ryan I paid $50 when I had $90 br
1/27/2009 7:36:58 PM Ryan David I had a bad name on LP once, I FIXED IT, you should do the same
1/27/2009 7:36:58 PM David Ryan I know...
1/27/2009 7:37:05 PM David Ryan well, I'm banned anyway
1/27/2009 7:37:11 PM David Ryan but I just came on now and I'm messaging everyone
1/27/2009 7:37:26 PM David Ryan well I think whamm blocked me
1/27/2009 7:37:30 PM Ryan David if you fix it you will be unbanned, with a public apology, which may hurt your ego for a day, but you will gain respect from the community
1/27/2009 7:37:31 PM David Ryan can you tell him I intend to pay him back?
1/27/2009 7:37:39 PM David Ryan I doubt that
1/27/2009 7:37:42 PM Ryan David if you write
1/27/2009 7:37:43 PM Ryan David in a blog
1/27/2009 7:37:48 PM Ryan David that you had no clue
1/27/2009 7:37:50 PM Ryan David that this would work out
1/27/2009 7:37:51 PM Ryan David the way it did
1/27/2009 7:37:53 PM Ryan David like u said
1/27/2009 7:37:54 PM Ryan David u didnt know
1/27/2009 7:37:57 PM Ryan David they would expire
1/27/2009 7:37:57 PM Ryan David etc
1/27/2009 7:37:58 PM Ryan David then
1/27/2009 7:38:00 PM Ryan David and
1/27/2009 7:38:02 PM Ryan David pay everyone back
1/27/2009 7:38:04 PM Ryan David to the penny
1/27/2009 7:38:05 PM Ryan David even $5 more
1/27/2009 7:38:07 PM Ryan David would be ethical
1/27/2009 7:38:15 PM Ryan David $55 for every $50 u got
1/27/2009 7:38:16 PM David Ryan yea
1/27/2009 7:38:17 PM Ryan David juice
1/27/2009 7:38:21 PM Ryan David if u do that
1/27/2009 7:38:21 PM David Ryan well, I have to get moey first
1/27/2009 7:38:22 PM David Ryan money *
1/27/2009 7:38:25 PM Ryan David ppl will help you
1/27/2009 7:38:27 PM David Ryan I"ve only got like $90
1/27/2009 7:38:36 PM Ryan David sucks to be you haha
1/27/2009 7:38:39 PM David Ryan yea
1/27/2009 7:38:42 PM David Ryan shitty predicament
1/27/2009 7:38:43 PM Ryan David u told me $ doesnt matter to you
1/27/2009 7:38:46 PM David Ryan can you message whamm?
1/27/2009 7:38:47 PM Ryan David acted as if you were rich
1/27/2009 7:39:05 PM Ryan David hes offline
1/27/2009 7:39:08 PM Ryan David its 7am in phillipines
1/27/2009 7:39:08 PM David Ryan ah
1/27/2009 7:39:10 PM David Ryan guess he didn't block me
1/27/2009 7:39:11 PM David Ryan lol
1/27/2009 7:39:15 PM Ryan David hes angry
1/27/2009 7:39:21 PM David Ryan understandable
1/27/2009 7:39:23 PM Ryan David but whamm is way down to earth
1/27/2009 7:39:25 PM David Ryan I'd be pissed off too
1/27/2009 7:39:43 PM David Ryan well he'll get the msg I sent him then
1/27/2009 7:39:46 PM Ryan David just realize this, you should never ever ever do such things, and man, if you have to do something that slimy in your life, don't ever fucking do it to a friend
1/27/2009 7:39:49 PM David Ryan I just assumed he blocked me
1/27/2009 7:39:54 PM Ryan David like if its life or death and u need $300 and thats the only way u can get it
1/27/2009 7:40:00 PM Ryan David get it from some nicaraguans or somethings
1/27/2009 7:40:02 PM David Ryan yea...
1/27/2009 7:40:03 PM Ryan David not ppl u know
1/27/2009 7:40:04 PM Ryan David seirously
1/27/2009 7:40:04 PM David Ryan lol!
1/27/2009 7:40:22 PM Ryan David just fix it up
1/27/2009 7:40:26 PM Ryan David get it done in 2 weeks
1/27/2009 7:40:29 PM David Ryan it'll prob take me at least a week or two
1/27/2009 7:40:30 PM David Ryan yea..
1/27/2009 7:40:31 PM Ryan David and ur fine, and u can have a poker career
1/27/2009 7:40:34 PM Ryan David if u dont do it
1/27/2009 7:40:37 PM Ryan David u will prob struggle
1/27/2009 7:40:38 PM Ryan David 2-3 more years
1/27/2009 7:40:39 PM Ryan David in poker
1/27/2009 7:40:41 PM Ryan David up to u
1/27/2009 7:40:42 PM Ryan David gl!
1/27/2009 7:40:45 PM David Ryan I really sincerely doubt
1/27/2009 7:40:48 PM Ryan David msg me when u have the money on stars
1/27/2009 7:40:49 PM David Ryan anyone will accept an apology
1/27/2009 7:40:52 PM Ryan David its not about that
1/27/2009 7:40:58 PM Ryan David its about u clearing ur name and paying everyone back
1/27/2009 7:41:00 PM Ryan David after that
1/27/2009 7:41:02 PM Ryan David u can use lp
1/27/2009 7:41:04 PM Ryan David to help yourself
1/27/2009 7:41:06 PM Ryan David and learn
1/27/2009 7:41:07 PM David Ryan heh
1/27/2009 7:41:08 PM Ryan David and if u do that
1/27/2009 7:41:10 PM Ryan David and show u have morals
1/27/2009 7:41:12 PM Ryan David and ethics
1/27/2009 7:41:14 PM Ryan David which it takes
1/27/2009 7:41:16 PM Ryan David to win in the long run
1/27/2009 7:41:19 PM Ryan David then i will teach u
1/27/2009 7:41:19 PM Ryan David again.
1/27/2009 7:41:23 PM Ryan David henceforth
1/27/2009 7:41:24 PM David Ryan yea..
1/27/2009 7:41:26 PM Ryan David you will become good fast
1/27/2009 7:41:30 PM Ryan David instead of years of not being good
1/27/2009 7:41:33 PM Ryan David up to u
1/27/2009 7:41:38 PM Ryan David todays Jan 27
1/27/2009 7:41:38 PM David Ryan well I found a good way to get money so it shouldn't take too long
1/27/2009 7:42:03 PM Ryan David Feb 14th (1/2 way through feb) you should have the $300 you stole from LP on your account and I'll get the usernames for you if you lost them, so u can send the money back
1/27/2009 7:42:08 PM Ryan David then i will msg baal and talk with him
1/27/2009 7:42:10 PM Ryan David and let him unban you
1/27/2009 7:42:13 PM Ryan David and you can make a blog
1/27/2009 7:42:15 PM Ryan David explaining
1/27/2009 7:42:19 PM Ryan David and i will help you go over it
1/27/2009 7:42:37 PM Ryan David ok good, if i were you, on ur spare time u should be grinding like a mad mofo
1/27/2009 7:42:44 PM Ryan David if u have $90
1/27/2009 7:42:48 PM Ryan David open 15 NL2 tables
1/27/2009 7:42:49 PM Ryan David or w/e
1/27/2009 7:42:54 PM Ryan David sit fullstacked
1/27/2009 7:42:54 PM David Ryan yea..
1/27/2009 7:42:56 PM Ryan David wait for JJ+
1/27/2009 7:43:01 PM Ryan David earn $10-$30 / hr
1/27/2009 7:43:02 PM David Ryan well i'm thinking
1/27/2009 7:43:05 PM David Ryan it was like
1/27/2009 7:43:08 PM David Ryan 200ish
1/27/2009 7:43:11 PM Ryan David its a lil more
1/27/2009 7:43:13 PM Ryan David than th
1/27/2009 7:43:14 PM Ryan David that
1/27/2009 7:43:17 PM Ryan David 250 - 300
1/27/2009 7:43:18 PM Ryan David not sure
1/27/2009 7:43:20 PM Ryan David atleast 5
1/27/2009 7:43:25 PM Ryan David i read the list today
1/27/2009 7:43:29 PM Ryan David and i got pm'd
1/27/2009 7:43:31 PM Ryan David by uptown
1/27/2009 7:43:34 PM Ryan David and whamm
1/27/2009 7:43:43 PM David Ryan I never sold anything to uptown
1/27/2009 7:44:00 PM David Ryan btw
1/27/2009 7:44:04 PM David Ryan can you just pay whamm back for me?
1/27/2009 7:44:07 PM David Ryan you're close to him anyway
1/27/2009 7:46:24 PM Ryan David the way i see it, you need to take care of all this on your own, i have money on stars, but in no way do i intend to help you with it after what you've done
1/27/2009 7:46:35 PM Ryan David you hurt my family
1/27/2009 7:46:38 PM Ryan David you get nothing from me
1/27/2009 7:46:39 PM Ryan David til u fix it


BTW - I won't vote on this matter since i know him

HAPPY I GOT YOUR MONEY BACK GUYS, BUT THIS MOTHERFUCKER DESERVES TO BE BANNED, HE LIED TO US ALL, AND HES LIEING TO 2+2 NOW, AND HE LIES ABOUTS HIS ALIASES.

whoever voted dont ban dino, what is wrong with you, cheater once, cheater forever. May i remind you he cheated on SC as well, he's a hacker/ex-hacker. Just because he's paying back it doesnt absolve him. I hate cheaters and they deserve a BIG punishment. And he did not commit a petty crime. He fucking stole from the whole community. I say fuck him

So it sounds like what... he tried to hack a PT could that would work forever so he could sell the cracked version? Lame but could have made plenty of monies if he got it to work properly. Hacker ingenuity.

Paraphrasing:
"I didnt try to scam, I just tried to sell the identical copy of PT without informing them of this fact, to multiple people for profit. I also took up the identities of multiple distinct people for this purpose and also pretended to be of the opposite sex on one occasion."


What--

How is this not having the intent to scam.

On February 04 2009 14:16 NeillyJQ wrote: I still highly doubt I would ever help that guy out again.

Neilly you are clearly too nice if you even have an ounce of sympathy for him and have even a speck of possibility of helping him out again.

He's proven to both you and us that he is not worth any of our time.

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yea uptown get a lyfe looser

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the fact that uptown is a loser or not doesn't change the fact that this dino fellow is a piece of shit.

I mean even if he was idiotic enough to try and sell one PT3 key a million times without realizing himself that he's ripping people off, I would still give him shit for the sheer stupidity of that matter. And how is there ZERO ill intent either. I just don't get people.

On a totally unrelated subject and perhaps more PM material but... Neilly you always appeared as a very egoistical, stubborn and even stupid person to me and I think I let you know that enough times, but I have to say you impressed me here with this:

"1/27/2009 7:36:24 PM Ryan David other people are the mirrors of you and me "

If you truly believe in those words and realize what they mean, it means you changed quite a bit from your past self and surpassed that gigantic ego of yours, this is what those words mean. They mean you acknowledge a connection with all other people and see them as equal to you. Meaning that you should be a much more humble person than you used to be. I haven't been on LP for multiple weeks so I don't know, is this the case or am I giving you too much credit here for something you didn't really mean?

i think he scammed people at 2p2 to pay people at lp
works out for me

On February 04 2009 17:57 whamm! wrote: i think he scammed people at 2p2 to pay people at lp works out for me

LOLFUCKINGL

BAN HIM

well u have to give dino some credit, i mean honestly, how many people who get caught scamming actually man up and pay back everyone they ripped off? he coulda simply changed identities and started fresh on LP. also obviously if other people's PT3 stopped working, his did too.. so he had to pay people back, plus fork out another $80 for another HUD. it doesn't excuse his actions, but at least he tried to make his amends.

On February 04 2009 11:25 sTrAtO wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2009 10:49 Maynard! wrote: Anyone who says they "have fans" deserves to get banned for that alone. lol, i can't believe i missed that part, and i second your post, unless you are Elky or mig edit: or echo <3

What if your Nazgul? I was a friend and a fan back when LT was the shit!

On February 04 2009 17:57 whamm! wrote: i think he scammed people at 2p2 to pay people at lp works out for me

rofl link?

On February 04 2009 18:23 JIGGAZ2185 wrote: well u have to give dino some credit, i mean honestly, how many people who get caught scamming actually man up and pay back everyone they ripped off? he coulda simply changed identities and started fresh on LP. also obviously if other people's PT3 stopped working, his did too.. so he had to pay people back, plus fork out another $80 for another HUD. it doesn't excuse his actions, but at least he tried to make his amends.

he didn't do this out of his own free will.

Have you read my post, Neilly?

Yes loco, all I can say to that is I'm a deeper individual than comes to the eye over the interwebz, and quitting hu and mtt's and getting back into the grind w/ the help of my angels (lostaccount and whamm!) has lowered my ego and brought me to a much closer reality.

But I had thought more and more about the situation, and this guy doesn't deserve to have our help, you realize hes cheating people from 2+2 to fix this? Hows he going to fix what he does to the 2+2ers? Is he gonna screw ppl on ballapoker? Does this go on forever?

My last post to JiggaZ is clearly stating that he was sucking up to me cuz he wanted me to keep coaching him for a pitance, and mostly free, he did not make the decision to fix this on his own free will.

I've learned more on the situation since my original post.

Loco, I like to believe I've come a long way, but it does not by any means mean that I am close to being 100% ego-less and 100% humble like I strive to be, but I am working on it daily, its a work in progress.

I don't think I'm a better person than him, but I also don't think people that make these life decisions should be granted the opportunity to make the living we are capable of making, I know its not my decision to make, but it is my decision if I help him, and theres many other people that are much more deserving of my help than him, a hacking scammer.

Also, I had some emotion in the last few posts, the last 24 hours of my life has been crazier/more dramatic than the last 3 years of my life (irl stuff), and I have some serious emotion going through my body

I've always thought Ryan would succeed if he successfully managed his BR.

The way he thinks is alot different from when he was degening it up.

On February 04 2009 18:23 JIGGAZ2185 wrote: well u have to give dino some credit, i mean honestly, how many people who get caught scamming actually man up and pay back everyone they ripped off? he coulda simply changed identities and started fresh on LP. also obviously if other people's PT3 stopped working, his did too.. so he had to pay people back, plus fork out another $80 for another HUD. it doesn't excuse his actions, but at least he tried to make his amends.

doomed

fwiw he didnt scam anyone at lp ok? was joking. sigh was a good joke tho

lol dino cheats on ps and cake poker he colludes with his stupid nerd friend fleem
i hope he gets banned for life and his BR gets confiscated

if you can prove someone is colluding they will get banned from the pokersite at the very least.......

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ban webnukem? scammer/idiot/troller

On February 04 2009 20:42 NeillyJQ wrote: But I had thought more and more about the situation, and this guy doesn't deserve to have our help, you realize hes cheating people from 2+2 to fix this? Hows he going to fix what he does to the 2+2ers? Is he gonna screw ppl on ballapoker? Does this go on forever?

Naive much? lol whamm was obviously kidding about him scamming people on 2p2 to pay back his debts here.

dino scammed my entire family :[
we're all pennyless and broke.


thanks for ruining this upcoming christmas dino

[btw who the fuck is dino?]

On February 05 2009 04:38 Twisted wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2009 20:42 NeillyJQ wrote: But I had thought more and more about the situation, and this guy doesn't deserve to have our help, you realize hes cheating people from 2+2 to fix this? Hows he going to fix what he does to the 2+2ers? Is he gonna screw ppl on ballapoker? Does this go on forever? Naive much? lol whamm was obviously kidding about him scamming people on 2p2 to pay back his debts here.

sorry ryan lol
wtf is everyone so serious about the situation anyway? he did something wrong, he kinda regret that already and paid everyone. as long as he doesnt request anything involving money or trust, he's ok in my book really

first time i checked this since yesterday, didn't realize u were joking whamm, but i had no idea how he made the money, and after watching him play I doubted he made $300 in a few days grinding micros.

its not up to me to decide though, although I believe having players like this in our society will lower the trust between the others in the society, and make it harder for up and coming LP grinders to be trusted, since we'll always be thinking about how often these scammers have been coming here

I don't want to associate with him, since theres no reason to. This guy straight up lied to me for 4 days straight, therefore I have little sympathy for him.

You guys do as you wish though, do whats best for LP

GL,
Ryan

yeah seriously who is this dino guy? supposed to be a known bw player?

Nah, only known cuz he's a notorious hacker and beat some 'known players' afaik. He's got a lot of fanboys, don't ask me why. Everyone that favoured Dino on Teamliquid got banned lol.

ppl like that never do anything, if they dont see a profit for theirselfs
they cant be part of community and they are not team players
even if he is giving money back.. i dont trust / like him

he was lying u neily b/c he suck at poker and he knows that u can teach him alot or maybe he wants to become ur friend, make some trust and then scam u later.. and after all he deserve this treatment (it's his fault) b/c once a scamer , always a scamer

he was kind of not that bad once the majority of us, decent to good players quit, he obv couldn't compete with player from rS. or ToT or w/e from back then

I don't know much about any of this, but I do know that people who've done a lot of stuff like this in the past have got caught a lot of times before and probably have some pretty good responses, backup plans when it fails. (Good with excuses, saying sorry etc)

Just a lot more profitable being on your guys side than what he scammed those people off/guilt, or some other motive.

Don't think he's to be trusted.

Remember back when Trek, some swedish guy got caught hacking, cheating on Brood war, got really upset because I really respected him and his play. Blabla, some long felt excuse, people forgave him, he did it again, got caught, and this time, he was REALLY sorry, and "payed" for it and got forgiven.

Several years later I had started playing WoW and I heard Trek was in one of the top guilds, and all respected and stuff. Cool I thought, I knew him, said hi and some stuff, that was about it.
Then I started reading on the forums, some guy kept abusing people, stealing their mats (stuff which takes a lot of time to gather, and costs a lot of gold) and their golds with different ways of cheating. Doing it on fakenicks.

I didn't think much of it, but one day I saw people screaming in general chat they got stolen of all their belongings again, and spammed the name of the fakenicker who did it.
I was bored, didn't think much over it, and then some idea popped in my head, I remember, I dunno where from, but that Trek had a gf called Kristine or something like that, so i spammed in caps to the guy with the fakenick "HAHAHA KRISTINE TOLD ME IT WAS YOU TREK LOL"

I got whisper back right away "LoL fuck, plz don't tell anyone hahaha"

Ok, sorry for the rant didn't plan it. But my point is, people really don't change and usually just people who are selfish and egoistic have this kind of behaviour. Now if this guy is new to poker, and not very good, I'm sure he'll turn around, become a good/nice guy since he will benefit from your guys wisdom and poker knowledge, but the second he can rip someone off big time, or don't need to put on this act, I'm sure he'll fuck someone over again.

My 2 cents xD

People that understand their mistakes change.On the other side morons who have no respect for anything or anyone and are selfish and have no common sense however dont.

We at Media will make sure to hold grudges for all of you who mindlessly forgive.

On February 07 2009 01:11 Skew wrote: We at Media will make sure to hold grudges for all of you who mindlessly forgive.

sweet hold my grudge for me so i can forget this shit ever happened

just happy ppl got there money back and hes gone