Folding Sets

There are of course many situations where it's standard to fold sets (four-flush boards, partial-straight boards, read-dependant situations against tight players), but...

Is it ever correct to fold a set on the flop?

Please provide hypotheticals. Thanks.

what the hell are you talking about?

"there are times when it's obv correct to fold a set on the flop, (here are some examples)

but is it ever correct to fold a set on the flop? provide examples"

Remember what Nazgul said about reading other peoples' posts before responding to them?

On the flop? Wow, that would be some really rare situation where you put him on a higher set than yourself, say you're 66 and 90% certain he has AA or KK because of the preflop action, flop comes 6AK and he is giving you strong action. Very theoretical, I don't even think many people would fold. Can't imagine other cases where you could fold easily on the flop, because you can outdraw a straight or a flush.

i dind't read your post but i read the title

and i laughed out loud

Don't be sucha jerk rekrul!

It's not nice saying it out loud! *gigglefart*

On August 22 2006 23:41 DuckPing wrote: There are of course many situations where it's standard to fold sets (four-flush boards, partial-straight boards, read-dependant situations against tight players)

lolololololololol

haha i knew this would get flamed

fold sets on flop?

the only scanerio would be..

55 on a limped pot 9 handed on a 5h6h7h board and your opponents are going crazy.

another situation i guess...TT reraised, 2 callers + yourself, flop ThJhQh

I fold sets all the time, but then again I hate money.

If you fold a set, you are a poop-face.

no fear poker/monster poker
end of discussion

bottom set in rags flop in full ring in a multiway limped pot when there are raises and reraises and rereraises and rerereraises and allins left and right

Yeah basicly unless it's obvious as hell - don't fold it.

DuckPing either posts this stuff as a joke, hates money, or is really stupid.

i used to fold sets to oversets fairly regularly at 5/10 full ring, but ive been running bad, have moved down and the players are far too bad even at 2/4 to do that. so yeah, i would probably almost never fold a set below 3/6 or 5/10 fr, its just a loss of too much equity

Only makes sense to fold a set if you are very confident you are facing a higher set or a flopped flush/straight and you dont have implied odds to boat up, which you typically do. Therefore dont fold sets.

if bigballs doesn't fold it, u don't, that's a rule

On August 23 2006 09:43 Fayth wrote: if bigballs doesn't fold it, u don't, that's a rule

On August 23 2006 06:16 BigBalls wrote: i used to fold sets to oversets fairly regularly at 5/10 full ring, but ive been running bad, have moved down and the players are far too bad even at 2/4 to do that. so yeah, i would probably almost never fold a set below 3/6 or 5/10 fr, its just a loss of too much equity

no it's quite easy to see where you should have folded when you get 5 undersets in 1 day :/ good practice LOL ...

On August 23 2006 06:16 BigBalls wrote: i used to fold sets to oversets fairly regularly at 5/10 full ring, but ive been running bad, have moved down and the players are far too bad even at 2/4 to do that. so yeah, i would probably almost never fold a set below 3/6 or 5/10 fr, its just a loss of too much equity

i dont understand yet how can u fold set vs set,
such good reads you make :D


again, if bigballs doesnt fold it, you dont fld it, it is a rule


well in NL10 i never fold a set.... in the flop, ofc if the flop is flushy or is straightening i will try to read my opp hand and fold, too tough tho

I folded a set once on the flop but it was a miss clicked and i was pissed.

cause sometimes its obvious
a tight good player who isnt a retard limps utg in a full ring game, i limp the co with 22

flop 952 rainbow
he bets
i raise
he reraises
gee i wonder what he fucking has

You should fold them now and then if you're playing well..

On August 23 2006 06:16 BigBalls wrote: i used to fold sets to oversets fairly regularly at 5/10 full ring

lies. they bluffed you off the bottom set!

On August 24 2006 09:28 BigBalls wrote: cause sometimes its obvious a tight good player who isnt a retard limps utg in a full ring game, i limp the co with 22 flop 952 rainbow he bets i raise he reraises gee i wonder what he fucking has

This one is pretty obvious but what if it comes 952 and you have 55, you fold or continue?

I disagree with whoever said something about the flop being AK6 with 66 and folding because they could easily have AK. Unless you know your opponent won't get really attached to AK with TPTK you can really never know that they have a set on Axx or Kxx just because they are giving a lot of action.

I think folding a set is just very rarely the right play and it ends up being wrong so often that you shouldn't even attempt to guess when you're screwed unless it's a situation like bigballs pointed out.

unless it's obvious, i go allin

multihanded pots with sick action before you from top players on a really undrawy board could be a place to fold a set.

Never folded a set on the flop though

ive only folded middle set with KK on an AKx board when its obvious the other guy had AA
i wouldnt fold 55 in that spot
i never give people credit for making the same reads i make

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/66140

i fold a set on the flop like once every 50k hands, and it's low set, and it's cuz my opponent cannot have an overpair or 2p variants

well, maybe 100k hands, and i can't remember the last set i folded on any street

Submitted by : Baalim

PokerStars Game #4619971207: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/04/14 - 02:24:24 (ET)
Table 'Kampala' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: pokerless ($11.20 in chips)
Seat 3: ryachris ($40.25 in chips)
Seat 4: LongRider ($10.05 in chips)
Seat 5: QUEEN COBRA7 ($20.75 in chips)
Seat 6: bkbk1992 ($25.55 in chips)
Seat 7: LoveHina ($65.45 in chips)
Seat 8: Baalim ($70.40 in chips)
Seat 9: crispy4505 ($37.25 in chips)
pokerless: posts small blind $0.10
ryachris: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to Baalim
LongRider: folds
QUEEN COBRA7: folds
bkbk1992: folds
LoveHina: folds
Baalim: raises $0.75 to $1
crispy4505: folds
pokerless: folds
ryachris: raises $2 to $3
Baalim: calls $2

Flop (Pot : $6.1)

   
ryachris: bets $2
Baalim: calls $2

Turn (Pot : $10.1)

   
ryachris: bets $5
Baalim: calls $5

River (Pot : $20.1)

   
ryachris: bets $10.25
Baalim: calls $10.25

Showdown
ryachris: shows (three of a kind, Aces)
Baalim: mucks hand
ryachris collected $38.65 from pot
Baalim said, "i had QQ"
QUEEN COBRA7 said, "nh"

Summary
Total pot $40.60 | Rake $1.95
Board  
Seat 1: pokerless (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: ryachris (big blind) showed and won ($38.65) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 4: LongRider folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: QUEEN COBRA7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: bkbk1992 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: LoveHina folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Baalim mucked
Seat 9: crispy4505 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

On August 26 2006 00:50 capaneo wrote: http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/66140

if you know both opponents have a straight here you shouldn't fold though. only if you think there is an overset.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/66240

i gotl ucky here, should i have played it differently ?