omfg full tilt

my balance on full tilt disappeared after i tried to:

a. log on unsuccessfully 5 times in a row
b. attempted a transfer to a friend and got declined

has this happened to anyone?

no, but seems like a pretty sweet security measure.
and how do you screw up logging in 5x?

nooblogaments

my wallet feels the same since I just got back from the strip club GG money

On April 19 2009 01:44 Bigbobm wrote: no, but seems like a pretty sweet security measure. and how do you screw up logging in 5x?

1. beautiful security measure, does Stars have anything like this?

2. booze

classy :D

On April 19 2009 01:44 Bigbobm wrote: no, but seems like a pretty sweet security measure. and how do you screw up logging in 5x?

bahaha i dunno.... i ended up getting a new pw

WTF someone from the UK logged in to my account 4 hours ago... wtfwtfwtfwtf

keylogger?

hope u get your money back. thats fucked up if its gone

damn gl with this

i had some one attempt to log on to my FTP account 5 times, he was located in USA.

I don't know if it resulted in a suspension of my funds because I had $0.00 in my FTP account at the time.

has this happened to anyone on PS?

wtf
this makes me want to get a RSA token but idk if stars ships to thailand

god i'm so happy i have a token! xD

On April 19 2009 06:17 gororokgororok wrote: god i'm so happy i have a token! xD

same

see this is i choose ub. superior software & support!

i feel sorry for u esp since ur a good guy who helped me out a bit when i was starting poker

hope nothing serious gl

On April 19 2009 01:18 collegesucks wrote: my balance on full tilt disappeared after i tried to: a. log on unsuccessfully 5 times in a row b. attempted a transfer to a friend and got declined has this happened to anyone?

i had a similar thing happen on mansion, if you fail to log in 5x in a row - the website aotumatically withdraws all your funds as a security measure

nah someone logged in and sat into a bunch of tables 600NL and tournaments and lost it all according to an excel sheet of account activity they sent me

so it says FT can't do anything about it wtf

thankfully, i withdrew 600 right before this incident so i'll have some money left over from which I can regrind i guess

duuuuude that is so fucked up...

On April 19 2009 11:27 collegesucks wrote: nah someone logged in and sat into a bunch of tables 600NL and tournaments and lost it all according to an excel sheet of account activity they sent me so it says FT can't do anything about it wtf thankfully, i withdrew 600 right before this incident so i'll have some money left over from which I can regrind i guess

wow thats sick. i posted in another Full Tilt thread on here that TONS of full tilt accounts have been getting hacked. and ft support hasnt done a single fucking thing about it. theres a thread on 2+2 about it.

FT users id def make sure i have all the bells and whistles in terms of protecting your computer.

someone from UK?
why does their security blow so hard

edit: I mean why dont they block a connection from another country or notify you

ok yeah this happened right after my friend logged on to his FT account on my computer and then I logged into mine.

usually i have my account and pw saved so i don't have to type anything in when logging in, but as SOON as i type in my information, it gets compromised.

fuck. gunna go format my computer/life now brb.

this is scary : /

wow im really sorry, that is really sick. Anyone have some good tips to keep safe?

Wow, that's really sick. And the problem is even if you have your account name / password saved so you don't have to type it in, that still isn't safe (at least Stars keeps bugging me about it, and I guess they know...)

One security measure is to type some random mumbojumbo then delete it, type shit again, delete, and only then input your data (that protects against keyloggers at least).

Up to date antispyware is also a must, imo.

How much did you lose?

How does this work? u get it as a file through msn or something? I never accept things from strangers.... can u also get it if u download something from a site? How do u protect yourself from keyloggers?

heres a good post from 2+2 that im going to copy past here to help with ftp accounts getting hacked

Since all the jerks who steal moneys already know how to hack an account, this thread is for you people to learn how to protect yourself.

I know it sounds cool to say "I got hacked", but hacking is a specific term, and most of this is not hacking. There are only six ways for someone to get into your fulltilt account:

1)They hack FTP's database and servers (this is next to impossible. Note, not impossible, but next to. You'll probably have to be on site to do it)

2) Someone working at FullTilt with Database Access (and the decryption key) is using/selling passwords. This is always possible, but very unlikely. Typically only a few people will have access to these files, and they stand to make more money by being legit than they risk by being shady. Although it's unlikely, it's not impossible.

3) You installed a keylogger program (usually done by mistake. When STEALING PT3 or HM on a torrent, the people will make their own installer program that FIRST installs the keylogger, then second installs the program. Unless you have serious anti-virus and firewall protection, you're hooped. NOTE: Norton is not serious, it's crap)

4) Someone physically used your computer with a saved password (or they physically installed a keylogger. Make sure you don't leave your comp out when hosting a party)

5) Someone CRACKED your password (cracking is not the same as hacking). This is difficult, since you only get 5 tries. If someone can guess your password in less than 6 tries, you deserve to be robbed.

6) Someone watched you type your password. Be careful in public peeps.


Unless there is some new technology that no one but these money crooks has heard of yet, these are the only ways for someone to get your password, computer's only do what you tell them to do. Some advice:

Advice on making a strong password: http://www.microsoft.com/protect/you...rd/create.mspx

Secondly, don't use the same password for everything. If you like to keep it simple have three passwords. One for money (your bank and fulltilt account), one for email and other "trust worthy and secure" sources, and a third for third party private sites (like 2+2).

You money password should only be used for sites that have a very good reason to keep all passwords under lock and key. You can be 99.9% sure that no one from the Bank of America is going to steal your online password. This is a highly secure password, don't give it out.

Your emails and whatnot should use another password. You may have to give this password out to someone at somepoint, thus it should be different than your money passwords. Also make it a good one, typically don't use words: p0kerf4n is easier to guess than idD29?lll

Finally third party sites, although I would trust 2+2, there are many other sites out there that are just run by one guy with a server in his basement. You sign up to that site with your email address and a password. If you use the same password for everthing he now has access to your email account, your email account will have records of yoru Full Tilt username... you can see where this is leading to.

Hope this helps guys. I might as well write a blog about this since I just spent 20 min typing it in here. If you have any questions or input, you know what to do.

heres the source
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54/poker-beats-brags-variance/how-hack-ftp-accounts-443382/

maybe mods should make their own list and post it in the faq or sticky something but this is becoming a very common problem. and its not newbs who dont have antiviruses or use internet explorer. this is happening to computer handy people.

omg this is sick

On April 19 2009 12:38 Stim_Abuser wrote: maybe mods should make their own list and post it in the faq or sticky something but this is becoming a very common problem. and its not newbs who dont have antiviruses or use internet explorer. this is happening to computer handy people.

qft

sorry to hear. how much did you lose?

This happens way too much lately

3k

wow wtf

sorry to hear

On April 19 2009 12:24 Sally_1303 wrote: How do u protect yourself from keyloggers?

KeyScrambler.

i feel so sorry for OP but u'll regrind it fast imo, 600 -> 3k isnt that hard for a solid lper

Oh my god

So if I own my own house and have no problem with people coming over, then should I just keep my account logged in and open 24-7????

nice list stim, but i also want to add as a programmer that its possible to install rootkits and exploit security holes in software to compromise a system.

for instance if a program is written badly it will allow data to overwrite instructions on the executable stack which can be used to install software of their choice. this isnt as hard as it sounds which is why poker players should be using a firewall.

obviously the best setup is a firewalled gateway, a dedicated poker machine with specialised ruleset just for poker software (specifying ports and ips- i have the details from pokerstars, u can email them if u need it) and another computer for recreational use (skype is very insecure..., many software of net is untrusted)

I'll second keeping different passwords for different sites as good security advice. Especially make sure your email account has a very strong and unique password because if someone gets access to your email, most of your other accounts can be easily compromised. I had my World of Warcraft account stolen over a year after I quit playing because someone got into my gmail, which had the same password I used at lots of insecure online forums. They typed my email address into the wow site to get my account name, and then searched through my emails for passwords. I used the same password at Pizza Hut Online, and those fuckers sent my password in plain text. GG.

Sorry OP, that sucks so much Whenever I log in I check my Cashier and I'm always paranoid that it's going to turn up $0. I'm going to get one of the RSA tokens ASAP now.

On April 19 2009 17:15 BIGlou83 wrote: So if I own my own house and have no problem with people coming over, then should I just keep my account logged in and open 24-7????

Yeah but that has issues of its own. Like people transferring from your account to theirs.

so sick man t.t

this is pretty awful

wow wtf this thread made me check my poker accs on diff sites
this is pretty sick

On April 19 2009 18:33 lazymej wrote: Sorry OP, that sucks so much Whenever I log in I check my Cashier and I'm always paranoid that it's going to turn up $0. I'm going to get one of the RSA tokens ASAP now. Show nested quote + On April 19 2009 17:15 BIGlou83 wrote: So if I own my own house and have no problem with people coming over, then should I just keep my account logged in and open 24-7???? Yeah but that has issues of its own. Like people transferring from your account to theirs.

Elaborate for me please.

biglou, never send first in a trade!! haha

people can still log into FTP from different PC even if you're still logged in, it just takes 30sec and then disconnects the computer that's logged in

On April 20 2009 01:15 thewh00sel wrote: people can still log into FTP from different PC even if you're still logged in, it just takes 30sec and then disconnects the computer that's logged in

not when they immediately change the password. you get ftp to email you a temp pw, and you can log in with the temp pw, but you can't change the password on the screen that pops up as soon as you log in. an error message pops up saying that you're still logged in and doesn't complete the login.

wow that actually sounds like a huge security failure. i should have freezed the account immediately when i saw that. FUCK ME.

ok yeah next time your online account behaves strangely in any way at all (like your password not working 5 times in a row -_-;; ), I would send an email to support asking them to immediately freeze any account activity. I should have been more alert.

fck.. shouldnt they automatically freeze the account if ppl are trying to access it from different continents? WTF?

there are many things that should be done the thing is they dont care about it

On April 19 2009 23:18 BIGlou83 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 19 2009 18:33 lazymej wrote: Sorry OP, that sucks so much Whenever I log in I check my Cashier and I'm always paranoid that it's going to turn up $0. I'm going to get one of the RSA tokens ASAP now.   On April 19 2009 17:15 BIGlou83 wrote: So if I own my own house and have no problem with people coming over, then should I just keep my account logged in and open 24-7???? Yeah but that has issues of its own. Like people transferring from your account to theirs. Elaborate for me please.

What I mean is if random people are coming in and out of your house all the time some of them may have Pokerstars accounts. Then if you're not around or somewhere else in the house, and your account is logged in they can transfer funds from your account to theirs. I'm not suggesting that you're friends are going to do this to you, I don't know what kind of people you invite to your house or what the situation is. I'm just saying that its a possibility.

On April 21 2009 01:40 lazymej wrote: Show nested quote + On April 19 2009 23:18 BIGlou83 wrote:   On April 19 2009 18:33 lazymej wrote: Sorry OP, that sucks so much Whenever I log in I check my Cashier and I'm always paranoid that it's going to turn up $0. I'm going to get one of the RSA tokens ASAP now.   On April 19 2009 17:15 BIGlou83 wrote: So if I own my own house and have no problem with people coming over, then should I just keep my account logged in and open 24-7???? Yeah but that has issues of its own. Like people transferring from your account to theirs. Elaborate for me please. What I mean is if random people are coming in and out of your house all the time some of them may have Pokerstars accounts. Then if you're not around or somewhere else in the house, and your account is logged in they can transfer funds from your account to theirs. I'm not suggesting that you're friends are going to do this to you, I don't know what kind of people you invite to your house or what the situation is. I'm just saying that its a possibility.

well if the money is stolen via transfer, it should be really easy to get the money back.

the reason why it's impossible to get the money back is because the scammer chip dumps on the tables and there's no way to prove that unless they make it REALLY REALLY obvious over a very short number of hands.

btw:

Submitted by : collegesucks

FullTiltPoker Game #11759358076: Table Rand (edu, 6 max) - $3/$6 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:45:10 ET - 2009/04/19
Seat 1: waitamin08 ($690.45)
Seat 2: AmeXCetuRioN ($988.05)
Seat 3: Hero ($672.60)
Seat 4: TexasTexx ($915.10)
Seat 5: artel76 ($136.45)
Seat 6: URnotINdanger2 ($600)
TexasTexx posts the small blind of $3
artel76 posts the big blind of $6
The button is in seat #3

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
URnotINdanger2 folds
waitamin08 folds
AmeXCetuRioN folds
Hero calls $6
TexasTexx raises to $18
artel76 raises to $60
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero calls $54
TexasTexx raises to $102
artel76 raises to $136.45, and is all in
Hero calls $76.45
TexasTexx calls $34.45

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $409.35)

   
TexasTexx has 15 seconds left to act
TexasTexx bets $48
Hero raises to $536.15, and is all in
TexasTexx calls $488.15
Hero shows
TexasTexx shows
artel76 shows

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $1,481.65)

   

River (Pot : $1,481.65)

   
Hero shows Ace King high
TexasTexx shows three of a kind, Kings
TexasTexx wins the side pot ($1,072.30) with three of a kind, Kings
artel76 shows a pair of Jacks
TexasTexx wins the main pot ($406.35) with three of a kind, Kings

Summary
Duration 76s
Total pot $1,481.65 Main pot $409.35. Side pot $1,072.30. | Rake $3
Board:
Seat 1: waitamin08 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: AmeXCetuRioN didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Hero (button) showed and lost with Ace King high
Seat 4: TexasTexx (small blind) showed and won ($1,478.65) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 5: artel76 (big blind) showed and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 6: URnotINdanger2 didn't bet (folded)
i requested a hand history for the period when my account was stolen and this is what i dug up. suspicious?

ugh, sorry it had to happen to you man, you're a good guy =[

On April 28 2009 00:08 collegesucks wrote: Show nested quote + On April 21 2009 01:40 lazymej wrote:   On April 19 2009 23:18 BIGlou83 wrote:   On April 19 2009 18:33 lazymej wrote: Sorry OP, that sucks so much Whenever I log in I check my Cashier and I'm always paranoid that it's going to turn up $0. I'm going to get one of the RSA tokens ASAP now.   On April 19 2009 17:15 BIGlou83 wrote: So if I own my own house and have no problem with people coming over, then should I just keep my account logged in and open 24-7???? Yeah but that has issues of its own. Like people transferring from your account to theirs. Elaborate for me please. What I mean is if random people are coming in and out of your house all the time some of them may have Pokerstars accounts. Then if you're not around or somewhere else in the house, and your account is logged in they can transfer funds from your account to theirs. I'm not suggesting that you're friends are going to do this to you, I don't know what kind of people you invite to your house or what the situation is. I'm just saying that its a possibility. well if the money is stolen via transfer, it should be really easy to get the money back. the reason why it's impossible to get the money back is because the scammer chip dumps on the tables and there's no way to prove that unless they make it REALLY REALLY obvious over a very short number of hands. btw: Submitted by : collegesucks FullTiltPoker Game #11759358076: Table Rand (edu, 6 max) - $3/$6 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:45:10 ET - 2009/04/19 Seat 1: waitamin08 ($690.45) Seat 2: AmeXCetuRioN ($988.05) Seat 3: Hero ($672.60) Seat 4: TexasTexx ($915.10) Seat 5: artel76 ($136.45) Seat 6: URnotINdanger2 ($600) TexasTexx posts the small blind of $3 artel76 posts the big blind of $6 The button is in seat #3 Holecards(Odds) Dealt to Hero URnotINdanger2 folds waitamin08 folds AmeXCetuRioN folds Hero calls $6 TexasTexx raises to $18 artel76 raises to $60 Hero has 15 seconds left to act Hero calls $54 TexasTexx raises to $102 artel76 raises to $136.45, and is all in Hero calls $76.45 TexasTexx calls $34.45 Flop(Odds) (Pot : $409.35)     TexasTexx has 15 seconds left to act TexasTexx bets $48 Hero raises to $536.15, and is all in TexasTexx calls $488.15 Hero shows TexasTexx shows artel76 shows Turn(Odds) (Pot : $1,481.65)     River (Pot : $1,481.65)     Hero shows Ace King high TexasTexx shows three of a kind, Kings TexasTexx wins the side pot ($1,072.30) with three of a kind, Kings artel76 shows a pair of Jacks TexasTexx wins the main pot ($406.35) with three of a kind, Kings Summary Duration 76s Total pot $1,481.65 Main pot $409.35. Side pot $1,072.30. | Rake $3 Board: Seat 1: waitamin08 didn't bet (folded) Seat 2: AmeXCetuRioN didn't bet (folded) Seat 3: Hero (button) showed and lost with Ace King high Seat 4: TexasTexx (small blind) showed and won ($1,478.65) with three of a kind, Kings Seat 5: artel76 (big blind) showed and lost with a pair of Jacks Seat 6: URnotINdanger2 didn't bet (folded) i requested a hand history for the period when my account was stolen and this is what i dug up. suspicious? WTF IS THIS SHIT!!

that is a play 1 of my friends would make, he could easily just be fucking around with the money, not chip dumping. Which i guess is the problem

Most secure in my humble opinion is running pokerstars as a user that is completely firewalled off except pokerstars servers and in a chroot jail.

On Linux of course. Anything on windows is not secure period. No, no. Not secure, period.

honestly the a2 hand looks like he was trying really hard to win u money

On April 28 2009 02:57 Fudyann wrote: Most secure in my humble opinion is running pokerstars as a user that is completely firewalled off except pokerstars servers and in a chroot jail. On Linux of course. Anything on windows is not secure period. No, no. Not secure, period.

agreed. I tried making a firewall and got everything working except skype which wanted ALL ports opening otherwise it would only function partially (either not get all contacts on login or not be able to connect).

also another thing is adding another user which only has write access to PS for when it needs updates.

sorry to hear man. sucks FTP can't do anything to compensate.

There is a neat program for OSX that monitors anything going in and out to the internet on any port called Little Snitch (http://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/index.html) - Good program. I was amazed to find that the Calculator for OS X, tries to connect to wu--calculator.apple.com on TCP Port 80.

Yeah, a calculator trying to connect to the internet. wtf? lol

That is fucked up, man! You really need to have a firewall (actually you shoudl be ashamed of yourself for not having a virusscanner and fw, this day and age age, with so much spyware/adware, vira and shit everywere these days) installed , with basically all ports closed, and and a virusscanner.

With a virus scanner (constantly updated ofc), you might be able to spot these keyloggers (which it sounds like it is). And with a firewall, you will be able to block their access to you're computer, so they can check all the passwords theyve stolen. I wouldnt recommend that you deposit untill you've atleast gotten a descent firewall. I dont know which software firewall are the best, since I use my router, but Zonealarm should be pretty good, because they will obv just be able to steal any password, and new acount you create.

But to be completely safe, I would recommend that you that you just format you hdd, before playing any poker.

On April 19 2009 02:24 Highcard wrote: nooblogaments

hahahahah

yea doesnt look like chip dumping but more like sabotage. Who would have such a beef with you? I would expect most people would try to find a way to steal the money, not just donate to random strangers.