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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. May 31 2009 11:28. Posts 9634
I made about 10,000 hands of HU 20nl/50nl and eventually quit because of the high pressure im put under while playing.Today decided to play some HU again and in 81 hands i went on 5 buy in swing then instantly alt+F4ed the poker coz i would've tilted so hard.
The question i got is how do u HU players endure all that pressure ... I used to monkey tilt every time i d lose 2buy ins on 6max but now idc if i go on 10buy in downswing as long as i know im playing good.However HU variance is like 1000 times bigger and games r faster so i need tips of how to retain a calm mental state

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lebowski   Greece. May 31 2009 11:33. Posts 9205

100+ buy ins could do the trick

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

KidPokeher   Bulgaria. May 31 2009 11:47. Posts 252

play 6max
it works for me


SfydjkLm   Belarus. May 31 2009 11:51. Posts 3810

dont play microstakes HU u can not beat the rake. I repeat, there is NO way to beat the rake, barring a sick heater.

*wink wink* 

ConquistadoR   Germany. May 31 2009 12:15. Posts 1952

Is that true SfydjkLm ?
Shouldn't be your edge in HU big enough to overcome the rake ? I mean in HU you have a bigger edge than in 6max(if you are better than your opponents ofc).

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Fayth    Canada. May 31 2009 12:18. Posts 10085

im fairly sure i can beat micro stakes HU at 15ptbb at least, so yes you can beat the rake

also when you play just keep telling urself to not to stupid moves, no stupid bluffs, no stupid calls, just try to play well, at all time, no matter what the results are, no matter if someone hits and run you, just focus on keeping your composure

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

maryn   Poland. May 31 2009 12:48. Posts 1208

haha considering i have huge tilt problem even on 6max i would probably lose my br in one night while playing hu


staxxx   Bulgaria. May 31 2009 12:56. Posts 652

of course you can beat the rake. You just have to play good.
For the pressure - as lebowski said, 100 bi makes you feel very comfortable so play low enough that you dont care for ~10 buy ins swing

No Limit 

SakiSaki    Sweden. May 31 2009 13:08. Posts 9685

for me, playing hu is being in a state of constant controlled tilt.

what wackass site is this nigga?  

street_hooker   Andorra. May 31 2009 13:21. Posts 505


  On May 31 2009 11:18 Fayth wrote:
im fairly sure i can beat micro stakes HU at 15ptbb at least, so yes you can beat the rake

also when you play just keep telling urself to not to stupid moves, no stupid bluffs, no stupid calls, just try to play well, at all time, no matter what the results are, no matter if someone hits and run you, just focus on keeping your composure

last time i checked every single hu table on ftp was a full buyin player waiting for a fish to come play him. hf getting ur 50000bb/100 winrate on there because its lulz lowstakes


SakiSaki    Sweden. May 31 2009 14:11. Posts 9685

ye, because I player of fayths caliber can obviously not crush bumhunting hu micro regs.




lol

what wackass site is this nigga?  

SfydjkLm   Belarus. May 31 2009 14:20. Posts 3810


  On May 31 2009 11:18 Fayth wrote:
im fairly sure i can beat micro stakes HU at 15ptbb at least, so yes you can beat the rake

also when you play just keep telling urself to not to stupid moves, no stupid bluffs, no stupid calls, just try to play well, at all time, no matter what the results are, no matter if someone hits and run you, just focus on keeping your composure


the rake on HU tables is 0.05 per 1$ in the pot, capped at .5. Hence to cap, you only need to put 10$ in the pot, or 20bb at NL50.
If you were to put 10$ every hand, youd be raked 100bb/100, but given that it doesnt happen that often, i will not venture a guess how often but from my personal experience i lose 50bb to rake in 300 hands, hence losing 16.6bb/100, or 8.3ptbb/100.
Yes youre motherfucking fayth and you can beat micros at 15ptbb/100, but is that really a great idea for an amature to try to beat 8ptbb/100 rake?

edit:motherfucking.

*wink wink*Last edit: 31/05/2009 14:23

Achoo   Canada. May 31 2009 14:41. Posts 1454

lol except im pretty sure Fayth is not human

Odds are exactly 50%: it either happens or not 

street_hooker   Andorra. May 31 2009 14:45. Posts 505


  On May 31 2009 13:11 SakiSaki wrote:
ye, because I player of fayths caliber can obviously not crush bumhunting hu micro regs.




lol

yea and what's he going to do? poker is small edges and with rake its laughable to even think maintaining more than 3bb/100 over a large sample is possible unless ur facing a rich millionaire whose trying to give you his money. He will not be able to force them to call no matter what caliber he is.

 Last edit: 31/05/2009 14:45

staxxx   Bulgaria. May 31 2009 14:46. Posts 652

lets talk with facts, 16 bb/100 loss only from rake is unreal
From my samples the rake at 50nl 6max is about 4 bb/100 and at 50nl HU is almost 5bb/100 so... why are we even talking about rake.

No Limit 

SfydjkLm   Belarus. May 31 2009 14:51. Posts 3810


  On May 31 2009 13:46 staxxx wrote:
lets talk with facts, 16 bb/100 loss only from rake is unreal
From my samples the rake at 50nl 6max is about 4 bb/100 and at 50nl HU is almost 5bb/100 so... why are we even talking about rake.


i am talking facts sir, not hypothetical samples u keep in ur head.
everytime the pot reaches 10 dolla u lose a bb.
That means if both players fold 13 hands in a row(just fold) u lose 1bb. That means that if neither player plays a hand over a 100 hand sample u lose 7.6bb/100.

*wink wink* 

staxxx   Bulgaria. May 31 2009 14:58. Posts 652

Dont know why you took my samples for hypothetical (or i didnt understand u right) but anyway I had a mistake - its $4.2/100 hands and $4.7/100 hands so 8 and 9 bb/100 - still what's the difference really?

No LimitLast edit: 31/05/2009 15:00

SfydjkLm   Belarus. May 31 2009 15:02. Posts 3810


  On May 31 2009 13:58 staxxx wrote:
Dont know why you took my samples for hypothetical (or i didnt understand u right) but anyway I had a mistake - its $4.2/100 hands and $4.7/100 hands so 8 and 9 bb/100 - still what's the difference really?


ah nvm then, well 9bb/100 is still brutal, and also i am basing my calculations on PS rake, not PP which it seems has different system.

*wink wink* 

ConquistadoR   Germany. May 31 2009 15:27. Posts 1952


  On May 31 2009 13:45 street_hooker wrote:
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yea and what's he going to do? poker is small edges and with rake its laughable to even think maintaining more than 3bb/100 over a large sample is possible unless ur facing a rich millionaire whose trying to give you his money. He will not be able to force them to call no matter what caliber he is.

LoL?
He will obviously crush these faggot nits with way more than 3bb/100. You are underestimating the edge players like Fayth have over the hu micro regs.

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street_hooker   Andorra. May 31 2009 22:25. Posts 505

Or you're wayway overestimating it


 
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