ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 09 2009 01:27. Posts 1337
Like a snowball ontop of a mountain, a ball is starting to roll. You may not know it yet, and while it may be a very small snowball right now, there are two very important things about this action: First, this snowball has been started correctly and it is thus inevitably heading in the right direction. Second, it is ontop of a very, very large mountain. It is the biggest mountain one could ever imagine created in the world.
In this analogy, the "snowball" that is starting ontop of the mountain was created and is credited thankfully to the ingenuousness of Dr. Ron Paul. I would highly recommend anyone that wants to make the USA a better place in any way to join in the direction of this snowball. It is the key.
To the people that would prefer not to help in physical action, then I'd recommend gaining awareness of this fundamentally and perhaps one day help in voice to the eventual coming avalanche. And at the very least if you have large sums of money or plan on ever obtaining such things in your life then you should definitely start paying attention. This will become worldwide.
What am I referring to exactly? The auditing and transparency of the Federal Reserve of course. It isn't you, the entity in your home that needs this auditing and transparency as much as it is the entity of government that has been behind the scenes in the last 9 decades in America. I must say, alot has happened in the last nine decades and this quiet mountain of government monetary policy needs to be looked at more and the Fed itself should become at least transparent and regulated.
As the government would tell you if you or your business got audited and you resisted, "What monetary actions is there for the Federal Reserve to hide that could possibly be good?"
It is my view that bipartisan support is the key to this as well as non-violence and that is growing substantially. I am fully aware of who I am and where I come from when I say that this is bar none the most important issue that is out there today in my country as the Federal Reserve ties and leads to everything. That is no small statement.
But don't take my word for it, get educated. Figure it out. Look things up on your own, ask questions, start the pressure on your peers and representatives.
There was a very good short and simple article as well as a discussion video that just came out on Yahoo Finance about the current direction and it is this that prompted me to make this thread here. Check it out here: http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/...s-Right-to-Audit-The-Federal-Reserve?
I'll help the discussion along with some videos, primarily Democrats I might add =)
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Why should the Federal Reserve be audited?
The Senator finds out indeed what happens when you try to do it right + Show Spoiler +
I know this all gets very technical and I will try to keep it as simple as possible. What DeMint is referring to here is the Senates version of H.R. 1207. It is bill S. 604 and is called the Federal Reserve Sunshine Act of 2009.
S. 604 is the companion bill to HR 1207 and for those that have never heard of 1207, it is a bill currently in the House of Representatives sponsored by Rep Ron Paul that is aimed to primarily audit and bring light to the Federal Reserve. As of today H.R. 1207 now has 250 cosponsors.
250 cosponsors is amazing in itself really. However, what bill 1207 actually needs is 300 cosponsors as that would insure this bill will be allowed to be voted on even if it for some strange reason it comes under suspension. It is my view of things that with all these bailouts and stimulus bills being passed that everyone's Representative should be behind this to say the least. So for H.R. 1207 if you would like to see if the Representative of your district is in support of some REAL transparency then take a look on the list of cosponsors for 1207 I will post in this spoiler. + Show Spoiler +
Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 2/26/2009
Rep Aderholt, Robert B. [AL-4] - 5/6/2009
Rep Adler, John H. [NJ-3] - 5/6/2009
Rep Akin, W. Todd [MO-2] - 3/19/2009
Rep Alexander, Rodney [LA-5] - 3/10/2009
Rep Altmire, Jason [PA-4] - 5/20/2009
Rep Austria, Steve [OH-7] - 5/6/2009
Rep Bachmann, Michele [MN-6] - 2/26/2009
Rep Bachus, Spencer [AL-6] - 4/29/2009
Rep Baldwin, Tammy [WI-2] - 4/21/2009
Rep Barrett, J. Gresham [SC-3] - 4/28/2009
Rep Barrow, John [GA-12] - 5/12/2009
Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. [MD-6] - 2/26/2009
Rep Barton, Joe [TX-6] - 5/4/2009
Rep Berkley, Shelley [NV-1] - 5/21/2009
Rep Berry, Marion [AR-1] - 5/20/2009
Rep Biggert, Judy [IL-13] - 4/28/2009
Rep Bilbray, Brian P. [CA-50] - 4/21/2009
Rep Bilirakis, Gus M. [FL-9] - 5/4/2009
Rep Bishop, Rob [UT-1] - 4/21/2009
Rep Blackburn, Marsha [TN-7] - 3/16/2009
Rep Blunt, Roy [MO-7] - 3/24/2009
Rep Boehner, John A. [OH-8] - 6/10/2009
Rep Bonner, Jo [AL-1] - 6/9/2009
Rep Bono Mack, Mary [CA-45] - 4/29/2009
Rep Boozman, John [AR-3] - 5/7/2009
Rep Boswell, Leonard L. [IA-3] - 6/9/2009
Rep Boustany, Charles W., Jr. [LA-7] - 5/13/2009
Rep Brady, Kevin [TX-8] - 4/22/2009
Rep Braley, Bruce L. [IA-1] - 6/11/2009
Rep Bright, Bobby [AL-2] - 6/11/2009
Rep Broun, Paul C. [GA-10] - 2/26/2009
Rep Brown, Corrine [FL-3] - 6/11/2009
Rep Brown, Henry E., Jr. [SC-1] - 4/28/2009
Rep Brown-Waite, Ginny [FL-5] - 5/20/2009
Rep Buchanan, Vern [FL-13] - 3/17/2009
Rep Burgess, Michael C. [TX-26] - 3/19/2009
Rep Burton, Dan [IN-5] - 2/26/2009
Rep Buyer, Steve [IN-4] - 4/30/2009
Rep Calvert, Ken [CA-44] - 4/29/2009
Rep Camp, Dave [MI-4] - 6/18/2009
Rep Campbell, John [CA-48] - 5/4/2009
Rep Cantor, Eric [VA-7] - 6/23/2009
Rep Cao, Anh "Joseph" [LA-2] - 6/11/2009
Rep Capito, Shelley Moore [WV-2] - 4/1/2009
Rep Carney, Christopher P. [PA-10] - 6/9/2009
Rep Carter, John R. [TX-31] - 3/31/2009
Rep Cassidy, Bill [LA-6] - 5/4/2009
Rep Castle, Michael N. [DE] - 3/17/2009
Rep Chaffetz, Jason [UT-3] - 3/6/2009
Rep Chandler, Ben [KY-6] - 7/7/2009
Rep Childers, Travis [MS-1] - 6/9/2009
Rep Coble, Howard [NC-6] - 6/11/2009
Rep Coffman, Mike [CO-6] - 6/16/2009
Rep Cole, Tom [OK-4] - 4/21/2009
Rep Conaway, K. Michael [TX-11] - 5/7/2009
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] - 6/23/2009
Rep Crenshaw, Ander [FL-4] - 5/4/2009
Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] - 3/26/2009
Rep Davis, Danny K. [IL-7] - 6/26/2009
Rep Davis, Geoff [KY-4] - 5/6/2009
Rep Deal, Nathan [GA-9] - 3/23/2009
Rep DeFazio, Peter A. [OR-4] - 3/9/2009
Rep Dent, Charles W. [PA-15] - 5/6/2009
Rep Diaz-Balart, Mario [FL-25] - 6/18/2009
Rep Doggett, Lloyd [TX-25] - 4/21/2009
Rep Dreier, David [CA-26] - 6/10/2009
Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. [TN-2] - 3/6/2009
Rep Edwards, Chet [TX-17] - 6/16/2009
Rep Edwards, Donna F. [MD-4] - 6/11/2009
Rep Ehlers, Vernon J. [MI-3] - 4/21/2009
Rep Fallin, Mary [OK-5] - 4/2/2009
Rep Flake, Jeff [AZ-6] - 5/11/2009
Rep Fleming, John [LA-4] - 3/18/2009
Rep Forbes, J. Randy [VA-4] - 5/20/2009
Rep Fortenberry, Jeff [NE-1] - 5/12/2009
Rep Foxx, Virginia [NC-5] - 3/10/2009
Rep Franks, Trent [AZ-2] - 3/23/2009
Rep Frelinghuysen, Rodney P. [NJ-11] - 6/3/2009
Rep Gallegly, Elton [CA-24] - 7/7/2009
Rep Garrett, Scott [NJ-5] - 3/5/2009
Rep Gerlach, Jim [PA-6] - 5/11/2009
Rep Giffords, Gabrielle [AZ-8] - 6/16/2009
Rep Gingrey, Phil [GA-11] - 3/30/2009
Rep Gohmert, Louie [TX-1] - 4/23/2009
Rep Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6] - 4/28/2009
Rep Granger, Kay [TX-12] - 4/28/2009
Rep Graves, Sam [MO-6] - 4/22/2009
Rep Grayson, Alan [FL-8] - 3/11/2009
Rep Griffith, Parker [AL-5] - 6/16/2009
Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] - 6/3/2009
Rep Guthrie, Brett [KY-2] - 5/7/2009
Rep Hall, Ralph M. [TX-4] - 4/29/2009
Rep Halvorson, Deborah L. [IL-11] - 6/3/2009
Rep Hare, Phil [IL-17] - 5/11/2009
Rep Harman, Jane [CA-36] - 7/7/2009
Rep Harper, Gregg [MS-3] - 5/11/2009
Rep Hastings, Doc [WA-4] - 5/11/2009
Rep Heller, Dean [NV-2] - 3/6/2009
Rep Hensarling, Jeb [TX-5] - 5/4/2009
Rep Herger, Wally [CA-2] - 4/21/2009
Rep Herseth Sandlin, Stephanie [SD] - 5/6/2009
Rep Hinchey, Maurice D. [NY-22] - 6/2/2009
Rep Hoekstra, Peter [MI-2] - 4/28/2009
Rep Holden, Tim [PA-17] - 6/4/2009
Rep Hunter, Duncan D. [CA-52] - 5/13/2009
Rep Inglis, Bob [SC-4] - 4/23/2009
Rep Inslee, Jay [WA-1] - 5/12/2009
Rep Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49] - 6/16/2009
Rep Jenkins, Lynn [KS-2] - 4/23/2009
Rep Johnson, Henry C. "Hank," Jr. [GA-4] - 6/9/2009
Rep Johnson, Sam [TX-3] - 4/22/2009
Rep Johnson, Timothy V. [IL-15] - 4/23/2009
Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. [NC-3] - 2/26/2009
Rep Jordan, Jim [OH-4] - 6/2/2009
Rep Kagen, Steve [WI-8] - 2/26/2009
Rep Kaptur, Marcy [OH-9] - 4/23/2009
Rep King, Peter T. [NY-3] - 6/4/2009
Rep King, Steve [IA-5] - 6/11/2009
Rep Kingston, Jack [GA-1] - 3/6/2009
Rep Kline, John [MN-2] - 4/29/2009
Rep Kosmas, Suzanne M. [FL-24] - 6/17/2009
Rep Kratovil, Frank, Jr. [MD-1] - 6/4/2009
Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. [OH-10] - 6/11/2009
Rep Lamborn, Doug [CO-5] - 4/21/2009
Rep Lance, Leonard [NJ-7] - 5/11/2009
Rep Latham, Tom [IA-4] - 4/21/2009
Rep LaTourette, Steven C. [OH-14] - 4/28/2009
Rep Latta, Robert E. [OH-5] - 5/20/2009
Rep Lee, Christopher J. [NY-26] - 6/10/2009
Rep Lewis, Jerry [CA-41] - 6/24/2009
Rep Linder, John [GA-7] - 5/6/2009
Rep Lipinski, Daniel [IL-3] - 6/4/2009
Rep LoBiondo, Frank A. [NJ-2] - 5/4/2009
Rep Loebsack, David [IA-2] - 6/10/2009
Rep Lofgren, Zoe [CA-16] - 7/7/2009
Rep Lucas, Frank D. [OK-3] - 4/21/2009
Rep Luetkemeyer, Blaine [MO-9] - 4/21/2009
Rep Lummis, Cynthia M. [WY] - 3/19/2009
Rep Lungren, Daniel E. [CA-3] - 5/7/2009
Rep Mack, Connie [FL-14] - 5/12/2009
Rep Maffei, Daniel B. [NY-25] - 5/12/2009
Rep Manzullo, Donald A. [IL-16] - 4/21/2009
Rep Marchant, Kenny [TX-24] - 3/11/2009
Rep Markey, Betsy [CO-4] - 6/25/2009
Rep Massa, Eric J. J. [NY-29] - 4/22/2009
Rep McCarthy, Kevin [CA-22] - 5/4/2009
Rep McCaul, Michael T. [TX-10] - 4/21/2009
Rep McClintock, Tom [CA-4] - 3/6/2009
Rep McCotter, Thaddeus G. [MI-11] - 3/19/2009
Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 4/29/2009
Rep McGovern, James P. [MA-3] - 6/10/2009
Rep McHenry, Patrick T. [NC-10] - 4/30/2009
Rep McHugh, John M. [NY-23] - 5/4/2009
Rep McIntyre, Mike [NC-7] - 6/10/2009
Rep McKeon, Howard P. "Buck" [CA-25] - 6/11/2009
Rep McMorris Rodgers, Cathy [WA-5] - 5/4/2009
Rep Mica, John L. [FL-7] - 5/12/2009
Rep Michaud, Michael H. [ME-2] - 5/7/2009
Rep Miller, Candice S. [MI-10] - 4/28/2009
Rep Miller, Gary G. [CA-42] - 6/10/2009
Rep Miller, Jeff [FL-1] - 3/24/2009
Rep Minnick, Walter [ID-1] - 5/13/2009
Rep Mitchell, Harry E. [AZ-5] - 6/9/2009
Rep Moran, Jerry [KS-1] - 5/4/2009
Rep Murphy, Christopher S. [CT-5] - 7/7/2009
Rep Murphy, Patrick J. [PA-8] - 6/9/2009
Rep Murphy, Tim [PA-18] - 4/29/2009
Rep Myrick, Sue Wilkins [NC-9] - 4/28/2009
Rep Neugebauer, Randy [TX-19] - 4/30/2009
Rep Nunes, Devin [CA-21] - 6/12/2009
Rep Olson, Pete [TX-22] - 4/21/2009
Rep Ortiz, Solomon P. [TX-27] - 5/14/2009
Rep Pascrell, Bill, Jr. [NJ-8] - 6/9/2009
Rep Pastor, Ed [AZ-4] - 5/20/2009
Rep Paulsen, Erik [MN-3] - 3/30/2009
Rep Pence, Mike [IN-6] - 4/21/2009
Rep Perlmutter, Ed [CO-7] - 6/10/2009
Rep Perriello, Thomas S.P. [VA-5] - 5/13/2009
Rep Peterson, Collin C. [MN-7] - 3/19/2009
Rep Petri, Thomas E. [WI-6] - 3/10/2009
Rep Pitts, Joseph R. [PA-16] - 4/28/2009
Rep Platts, Todd Russell [PA-19] - 3/19/2009
Rep Poe, Ted [TX-2] - 2/26/2009
Rep Polis, Jared [CO-2] - 6/11/2009
Rep Posey, Bill [FL-15] - 2/26/2009
Rep Price, Tom [GA-6] - 3/10/2009
Rep Putnam, Adam H. [FL-12] - 4/28/2009
Rep Radanovich, George [CA-19] - 5/6/2009
Rep Rehberg, Denny [MT] - 2/26/2009
Rep Reichert, David G. [WA-8] - 5/20/2009
Rep Roe, David P. [TN-1] - 4/21/2009
Rep Rogers, Mike D. [AL-3] - 5/13/2009
Rep Rogers, Mike J. [MI-8] - 5/20/2009
Rep Rohrabacher, Dana [CA-46] - 3/6/2009
Rep Rooney, Thomas J. [FL-16] - 4/22/2009
Rep Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana [FL-18] - 4/28/2009
Rep Roskam, Peter J. [IL-6] - 6/2/2009
Rep Ross, Mike [AR-4] - 5/21/2009
Rep Rothman, Steven R. [NJ-9] - 6/18/2009
Rep Royce, Edward R. [CA-40] - 5/12/2009
Rep Ryan, Paul [WI-1] - 5/14/2009
Rep Sarbanes, John P. [MD-3] - 6/15/2009
Rep Scalise, Steve [LA-1] - 5/20/2009
Rep Schakowsky, Janice D. [IL-9] - 5/6/2009
Rep Schauer, Mark H. [MI-7] - 5/20/2009
Rep Schmidt, Jean [OH-2] - 6/11/2009
Rep Schock, Aaron [IL-18] - 5/6/2009
Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. [WI-5] - 5/7/2009
Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] - 3/23/2009
Rep Shadegg, John B. [AZ-3] - 5/7/2009
Rep Shea-Porter, Carol [NH-1] - 6/9/2009
Rep Sherman, Brad [CA-27] - 6/23/2009
Rep Shimkus, John [IL-19] - 4/22/2009
Rep Shuler, Heath [NC-11] - 6/12/2009
Rep Shuster, Bill [PA-9] - 5/7/2009
Rep Simpson, Michael K. [ID-2] - 4/28/2009
Rep Slaughter, Louise McIntosh [NY-28] - 6/17/2009
Rep Smith, Adam [WA-9] - 4/22/2009
Rep Smith, Adrian [NE-3] - 4/28/2009
Rep Smith, Christopher H. [NJ-4] - 6/15/2009
Rep Smith, Lamar [TX-21] - 4/2/2009
Rep Snyder, Vic [AR-2] - 6/23/2009
Rep Souder, Mark E. [IN-3] - 6/16/2009
Rep Space, Zachary T. [OH-18] - 6/23/2009
Rep Speier, Jackie [CA-12] - 6/11/2009
Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 3/26/2009
Rep Stearns, Cliff [FL-6] - 3/6/2009
Rep Taylor, Gene [MS-4] - 3/6/2009
Rep Teague, Harry [NM-2] - 6/12/2009
Rep Terry, Lee [NE-2] - 3/30/2009
Rep Thompson, Glenn [PA-5] - 4/22/2009
Rep Thornberry, Mac [TX-13] - 5/21/2009
Rep Tiahrt, Todd [KS-4] - 4/28/2009
Rep Tiberi, Patrick J. [OH-12] - 4/28/2009
Rep Tonko, Paul D. [NY-21] - 6/9/2009
Rep Turner, Michael R. [OH-3] - 5/13/2009
Rep Upton, Fred [MI-6] - 4/29/2009
Rep Walden, Greg [OR-2] - 5/4/2009
Rep Walz, Timothy J. [MN-1] - 5/7/2009
Rep Wamp, Zach [TN-3] - 3/16/2009
Rep Welch, Peter [VT] - 5/21/2009
Rep Westmoreland, Lynn A. [GA-3] - 4/2/2009
Rep Whitfield, Ed [KY-1] - 5/14/2009
Rep Wilson, Joe [SC-2] - 4/29/2009
Rep Wittman, Robert J. [VA-1] - 4/1/2009
Rep Wolf, Frank R. [VA-10] - 6/11/2009
Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. [CA-6] - 2/26/2009
Rep Young, C.W. Bill [FL-10] - 6/3/2009
Rep Young, Don [AK] - 3/6/2009
Consider for instance Barney Frank's bill H.R. 2267 for regulating poker. That bill currently has 42 cosponsors and I bet is unlikely to get such sponsoring support in Congress.
Representative Alan Grayson
Rep. Grayson asks the Federal Reserve Inspector General about the trillions of dollars lent or spent by the Federal Reserve and where it went + Show Spoiler +
When I watch this video I am always reminded of this picture + Show Spoiler +
Representative Marcy Kaptur brings up counterfeiting and the Federal Reserve and the legal loops and holes
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The list goes on and on. I do not want to make this entry incredibly long so I will end this posting going away from current events and backwards to a little piece of history to show that this battle has been around for quite some time.
This is an excerpt of history in a speech from, "the Honorable Louis T. McFadden of Pennsylvania."
Congressman McFadden gave this speech in 1933 and I decided on his because to quote the article, "Mr. McFadden, due to his having served as Chairman of the Banking and Currency Committee for more than 10 years, was the best posted man on these matters in America and was in a position to speak with authority of the vast ramifications of this gigantic private credit monopoly. As Representative of a State which was among the first to declare its freedom from foreign money tyrants it is fitting that Pennsylvania, the cradle of liberty, be again given the credit for producing a son that was not afraid to hurl defiance in the face of the money-bund. Whereas Mr. McFadden was elected to the high office on both the Democratic and Republican tickets, there can be no accusation of partisanship lodged against him. Because these speeches are set out in full in the Congressional Record, they carry weight that no amount of condemnation on the part of private individuals could hope to carry."
So here is that excerpt:
The Scheme Of The Fed
"In 1913, before the Senate Banking and Currency Committee, Mr. Alexander Lassen made the following statement: 'The whole scheme of the Fed with its commercial paper is an impractical, cumbersome machinery- is simply a cover to secure the privilege of issuing money, and to evade payment of as much tax upon circulation as possible and then control the issue and maintain, instead of reducing interest rates. It will prove to the advantage of the few and the detriment of the people. It will mean continued shortage of actual money and further extension of credits, for when there is a shortage of money people have to borrow to their cost.' A few days before the Fed passed, Senator Root denounced the Fed as an outrage on our liberties. He predicted: 'Long before we wake up from our dream of prosperity through an inflated currency, our gold- which alone could have kept us from catastrophe- will have vanished and no rate of interest will tempt it to return.'
If ever a prophecy came true, that one did.
The Fed became law the day before Christmas Eve, in the year 1913, and shortly afterwards, the German International bankers, Kuhn, Loeb and Co. sent one of their partners here to run it.
The Fed Note is essentially unsound. It is the worst currency and the most dangerous that this Country has ever known."
holy fucking shit.... This video is outrageous, not only because the Federal Reserve has no supervision whatsoever but also the incompetence of this woman is astonishing, how on earth does somebody like that ends up in that high profile job? seriously she was like a deer caught in headlights.
As long as there is even a minuscule doubt about our economy's strength and/or vitality sweeping reform involving our money wont be touched by the vast majority of our elected individuals.
On July 09 2009 03:59 SKoT wrote:
just post pictures of tits and we'll all have a better time
qft
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ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 09 2009 05:32. Posts 1337
ya Baal her and her team didn't dodge very well in comparison to her boss - if u watch that video with the pic I posted beneath it at the same time it's funny as hell
and I don't get what you're saying in your first post SKoT
but here ya go
1. This sounds like a good idea though I haven't done the research.
2. Whos the girl in the spoiler pic? She looks like shes 13 or something.
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ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 09 2009 06:05. Posts 1337
1. if u do ur research lemme know what u find
2. wat? u think the animated gif girl is 13 and so errrrr u are wanting to know who she is ... so u can get more sauce? how very nefarious of u Narious =P
fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity
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ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 09 2009 06:06. Posts 1337
the chances of you originally being an American hiding in Canada just went up 40%
btw lets get back on the thread or ill have to close it.
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ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 09 2009 10:01. Posts 1337
it was this
get it while it's hot =P
(nsfw obv) + Show Spoiler +
as for staying on topic ok I can do that
here's something ironic that happened and had me lmfao as I couldn't believe it
I made this thread right? Well shortly after doing that I decided to get something to eat. I then realized it was Wednesday and that meant one of the few shows I do try to watch regularly, "Freedom Watch w/ Judge Napolitano," had a new hour long episode come out. So in deciding to kill two birds with one stone I started watching it while eating (nomnomnom)
Even though I had made this post well after the show had actually come out, I had not seen it yet and had absolutely no idea that almost the entire first half of this weeks episode was going to revolve around the Federal Reserve and the current situation with it. It fits this thread and subject perfectly (well except boobies)
I was utterly amazed.
This week and last weeks show is imo some of the best ones yet. Though this week I got a really good laugh because sometimes ghey main stream media FOX will butt into the show and do a quick piece with the Judge. Well this week the powers that be decided this would be one of those weeks and so in part 4 they do interrupt this stream to get a segment in w/ the Judge..
Can you guess what the topic was and what the questions were related to as soon as MSM IMAGHEY FOX took over the show to do their segment?
I dont get it, isnt Fox supposed to be a neo-con network? why would they put those 2 heroes on air?
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ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 09 2009 11:06. Posts 1337
to be fair and balanced? lmao
fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity
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ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 09 2009 11:15. Posts 1337
no but really, with the Judge and the direction Fox seems to be taking him I'm not really sure enough yet to garner a guess as to why but with Ron Paul I'd guess that it has more to do with demand and ratings and to at least portray at the lowest denominator of technically maintaining that "fair and balanced" image
man i had to jerk off like 3 times in a row cos whenever i went there were sexy time pictures.
I mean comeon, Federal Reserve?
If even in politics there are titties, i better start buying lube in bulk.
On July 09 2009 09:44 Baal wrote:
I dont get it, isnt Fox supposed to be a neo-con network? why would they put those 2 heroes on air?
Napolitano doesn't really fit with their standard neocon stuff, but has been an "advisor" type person to Fox for a while. I guess he somehow managed to convince them to let him do a show that he had mostly free reign over.
On July 09 2009 03:12 Baal wrote:
holy fucking shit.... This video is outrageous, not only because the Federal Reserve has no supervision whatsoever but also the incompetence of this woman is astonishing, how on earth does somebody like that ends up in that high profile job? seriously she was like a deer caught in headlights.
That woman puts me on tilt so much. U.S is retarded for having a private central bank. There were 2 public central banks but the last one went bankrupt before WWII.
I'm sorry for the americans that their governemnt is one of the most corrupted in the entire world.
On July 09 2009 03:12 Baal wrote:
holy fucking shit.... This video is outrageous, not only because the Federal Reserve has no supervision whatsoever but also the incompetence of this woman is astonishing, how on earth does somebody like that ends up in that high profile job? seriously she was like a deer caught in headlights.
That woman puts me on tilt so much. U.S is retarded for having a private central bank. There were 2 public central banks but the last one went bankrupt before WWII.
I'm sorry for the americans that their governemnt is one of the most corrupted in the entire world.
The sad thing is most people in the US don't even realize the concept of what you mean by a central bank and the way we are brought up to be so instantly self serving and on the go it just seems like this should be a natural thing w/out much debate.
fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity
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ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 10 2009 18:42. Posts 1337
this fight is going to get big as fed is going to dig its heels in bigtime and never ever open its doors easily...
"Kohn warns Congress on meddling in Fed's affairs"
Fed Vice Chairman Donald Kohn
Testifying before a congressional panel, Kohn sought to beat back a proposed bill that would open the U.S. central bank's policy decisions to audits by a federal watchdog agency. More than half of the members of the U.S. House of Representatives have signed as co-sponsors of the measure.
The GAO is currently prohibited from auditing these areas. Kohn said removing this exclusion would be highly detrimental and could lead investors to worry that politics -- not economics -- would guide the Fed's decisions.
"The Federal Reserve strongly believes that removing the statutory limits on GAO audits of monetary policy matters would be contrary to the public interest by tending to undermine the independence and efficacy of monetary policy," Kohn said.
He also said it could "cast a chill" on monetary policy deliberations by making officials nervous that ideas they discuss behind closed doors could become public.
Paul denied his bill was about Fed independence. "We are not looking to the Congress to run monetary policy. We just want to know what's going on, and why," he told Kohn.
Kohn warned that congressional meddling in the Fed's affairs could threaten the United States' AAA credit rating and drive up interest rates.
"Any kind of hint that you are trying to take away Fed independence could be very counterproductive at this point in time," Bullard told Bloomberg television.
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ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 10 2009 19:13. Posts 1337
seriously think about the scope of this
if the Federal Reserve is completely and independently making secret transactions in the trillions and the people and Congress demand transparency... just imagine the possibilities and the degree the Fed will go to take our eye off the ball or make sure we never fully get there
the level is outstanding
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ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 21 2009 14:51. Posts 1337
bump for a few points (from least to greatest)
-In retrospect I'd like to change/tweak the point of me saying that this is an issue that becomes worldwide. The Federal Reserve is already indeed a worldwide affecting thing. But this issue is not worldwide in the sense that monetary policy and financial transactions are much preferred to be behind closed doors and not a public aware of or known type thing, and that is what I meant.
This is just a guess of course, but I believe at the rate everything is going this will hopefully become something everyone is aware of and gains knowledge of.
-For anyone that follows this issue even just a little, it is wise to always keep in mind that Bernanke's term of chairmanship ends or is up for renewal/replacement this January
Holy shit that video is even worse... the guy was fucking stuttering...
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ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 21 2009 22:41. Posts 1337
that's the main Fed big dog Bernanke, ranked 4th most powerful man in the world by NEWSWEEK
(here's their top ten btw)
1: Barack Obama
2: Hu Jintao
3: Nicolas Sarkozy
4-5-6: Economic Triumvirate
7: Gordon Brown
8: Angela Merkel
9: Vladimir Putin
10: Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud
but to get back on track
to me that video is actually a really interesting and good one on many different levels
I mean imagine you only get 5 minutes...
ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 25 2009 20:32. Posts 1337
This does a good job of putting things into perspective
[edit]
since I bumped this active again I should update
H.R. 1207 is now up to 276 cosponsors
there needs to be just a few more
here is the list of who is on it + Show Spoiler +
Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 2/26/2009
Rep Aderholt, Robert B. [AL-4] - 5/6/2009
Rep Adler, John H. [NJ-3] - 5/6/2009
Rep Akin, W. Todd [MO-2] - 3/19/2009
Rep Alexander, Rodney [LA-5] - 3/10/2009
Rep Altmire, Jason [PA-4] - 5/20/2009
Rep Austria, Steve [OH-7] - 5/6/2009
Rep Bachmann, Michele [MN-6] - 2/26/2009
Rep Bachus, Spencer [AL-6] - 4/29/2009
Rep Baird, Brian [WA-3] - 7/10/2009
Rep Baldwin, Tammy [WI-2] - 4/21/2009
Rep Barrett, J. Gresham [SC-3] - 4/28/2009
Rep Barrow, John [GA-12] - 5/12/2009
Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. [MD-6] - 2/26/2009
Rep Barton, Joe [TX-6] - 5/4/2009
Rep Berkley, Shelley [NV-1] - 5/21/2009
Rep Berry, Marion [AR-1] - 5/20/2009
Rep Biggert, Judy [IL-13] - 4/28/2009
Rep Bilbray, Brian P. [CA-50] - 4/21/2009
Rep Bilirakis, Gus M. [FL-9] - 5/4/2009
Rep Bishop, Rob [UT-1] - 4/21/2009
Rep Bishop, Timothy H. [NY-1] - 7/10/2009
Rep Blackburn, Marsha [TN-7] - 3/16/2009
Rep Blunt, Roy [MO-7] - 3/24/2009
Rep Boehner, John A. [OH-8] - 6/10/2009
Rep Bonner, Jo [AL-1] - 6/9/2009
Rep Bono Mack, Mary [CA-45] - 4/29/2009
Rep Boozman, John [AR-3] - 5/7/2009
Rep Boswell, Leonard L. [IA-3] - 6/9/2009
Rep Boucher, Rick [VA-9] - 7/20/2009
Rep Boustany, Charles W., Jr. [LA-7] - 5/13/2009
Rep Boyd, Allen [FL-2] - 7/14/2009
Rep Brady, Kevin [TX-8] - 4/22/2009
Rep Braley, Bruce L. [IA-1] - 6/11/2009
Rep Bright, Bobby [AL-2] - 6/11/2009
Rep Broun, Paul C. [GA-10] - 2/26/2009
Rep Brown, Corrine [FL-3] - 6/11/2009
Rep Brown, Henry E., Jr. [SC-1] - 4/28/2009
Rep Brown-Waite, Ginny [FL-5] - 5/20/2009
Rep Buchanan, Vern [FL-13] - 3/17/2009
Rep Burgess, Michael C. [TX-26] - 3/19/2009
Rep Burton, Dan [IN-5] - 2/26/2009
Rep Buyer, Steve [IN-4] - 4/30/2009
Rep Calvert, Ken [CA-44] - 4/29/2009
Rep Camp, Dave [MI-4] - 6/18/2009
Rep Campbell, John [CA-48] - 5/4/2009
Rep Cantor, Eric [VA-7] - 6/23/2009
Rep Cao, Anh "Joseph" [LA-2] - 6/11/2009
Rep Capito, Shelley Moore [WV-2] - 4/1/2009
Rep Carney, Christopher P. [PA-10] - 6/9/2009
Rep Carter, John R. [TX-31] - 3/31/2009
Rep Cassidy, Bill [LA-6] - 5/4/2009
Rep Castle, Michael N. [DE] - 3/17/2009
Rep Chaffetz, Jason [UT-3] - 3/6/2009
Rep Chandler, Ben [KY-6] - 7/7/2009
Rep Childers, Travis [MS-1] - 6/9/2009
Rep Coble, Howard [NC-6] - 6/11/2009
Rep Coffman, Mike [CO-6] - 6/16/2009
Rep Cole, Tom [OK-4] - 4/21/2009
Rep Conaway, K. Michael [TX-11] - 5/7/2009
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] - 6/23/2009
Rep Courtney, Joe [CT-2] - 7/8/2009
Rep Crenshaw, Ander [FL-4] - 5/4/2009
Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] - 3/26/2009
Rep Dahlkemper, Kathleen A. [PA-3] - 7/22/2009
Rep Davis, Danny K. [IL-7] - 6/26/2009
Rep Davis, Geoff [KY-4] - 5/6/2009
Rep Deal, Nathan [GA-9] - 3/23/2009
Rep DeFazio, Peter A. [OR-4] - 3/9/2009
Rep Dent, Charles W. [PA-15] - 5/6/2009
Rep Diaz-Balart, Lincoln [FL-21] - 7/10/2009
Rep Diaz-Balart, Mario [FL-25] - 6/18/2009
Rep Doggett, Lloyd [TX-25] - 4/21/2009
Rep Dreier, David [CA-26] - 6/10/2009
Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. [TN-2] - 3/6/2009
Rep Edwards, Chet [TX-17] - 6/16/2009
Rep Edwards, Donna F. [MD-4] - 6/11/2009
Rep Ehlers, Vernon J. [MI-3] - 4/21/2009
Rep Emerson, Jo Ann [MO-8] - 7/15/2009
Rep Fallin, Mary [OK-5] - 4/2/2009
Rep Farr, Sam [CA-17] - 7/8/2009
Rep Flake, Jeff [AZ-6] - 5/11/2009
Rep Fleming, John [LA-4] - 3/18/2009
Rep Forbes, J. Randy [VA-4] - 5/20/2009
Rep Fortenberry, Jeff [NE-1] - 5/12/2009
Rep Foxx, Virginia [NC-5] - 3/10/2009
Rep Franks, Trent [AZ-2] - 3/23/2009
Rep Frelinghuysen, Rodney P. [NJ-11] - 6/3/2009
Rep Fudge, Marcia L. [OH-11] - 7/9/2009
Rep Gallegly, Elton [CA-24] - 7/7/2009
Rep Garrett, Scott [NJ-5] - 3/5/2009
Rep Gerlach, Jim [PA-6] - 5/11/2009
Rep Giffords, Gabrielle [AZ-8] - 6/16/2009
Rep Gingrey, Phil [GA-11] - 3/30/2009
Rep Gohmert, Louie [TX-1] - 4/23/2009
Rep Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6] - 4/28/2009
Rep Granger, Kay [TX-12] - 4/28/2009
Rep Graves, Sam [MO-6] - 4/22/2009
Rep Grayson, Alan [FL-8] - 3/11/2009
Rep Griffith, Parker [AL-5] - 6/16/2009
Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] - 6/3/2009
Rep Guthrie, Brett [KY-2] - 5/7/2009
Rep Hall, Ralph M. [TX-4] - 4/29/2009
Rep Halvorson, Deborah L. [IL-11] - 6/3/2009
Rep Hare, Phil [IL-17] - 5/11/2009
Rep Harman, Jane [CA-36] - 7/7/2009
Rep Harper, Gregg [MS-3] - 5/11/2009
Rep Hastings, Doc [WA-4] - 5/11/2009
Rep Heller, Dean [NV-2] - 3/6/2009
Rep Hensarling, Jeb [TX-5] - 5/4/2009
Rep Herger, Wally [CA-2] - 4/21/2009
Rep Herseth Sandlin, Stephanie [SD] - 5/6/2009
Rep Hinchey, Maurice D. [NY-22] - 6/2/2009
Rep Hirono, Mazie K. [HI-2] - 7/8/2009
Rep Hoekstra, Peter [MI-2] - 4/28/2009
Rep Holden, Tim [PA-17] - 6/4/2009
Rep Hunter, Duncan D. [CA-52] - 5/13/2009
Rep Inglis, Bob [SC-4] - 4/23/2009
Rep Inslee, Jay [WA-1] - 5/12/2009
Rep Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49] - 6/16/2009
Rep Jenkins, Lynn [KS-2] - 4/23/2009
Rep Johnson, Henry C. "Hank," Jr. [GA-4] - 6/9/2009
Rep Johnson, Sam [TX-3] - 4/22/2009
Rep Johnson, Timothy V. [IL-15] - 4/23/2009
Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. [NC-3] - 2/26/2009
Rep Jordan, Jim [OH-4] - 6/2/2009
Rep Kagen, Steve [WI-8] - 2/26/2009
Rep Kaptur, Marcy [OH-9] - 4/23/2009
Rep King, Peter T. [NY-3] - 6/4/2009
Rep King, Steve [IA-5] - 6/11/2009
Rep Kingston, Jack [GA-1] - 3/6/2009
Rep Kirk, Mark Steven [IL-10] - 7/15/2009
Rep Kirkpatrick, Ann [AZ-1] - 7/14/2009
Rep Kline, John [MN-2] - 4/29/2009
Rep Kosmas, Suzanne M. [FL-24] - 6/17/2009
Rep Kratovil, Frank, Jr. [MD-1] - 6/4/2009
Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. [OH-10] - 6/11/2009
Rep Lamborn, Doug [CO-5] - 4/21/2009
Rep Lance, Leonard [NJ-7] - 5/11/2009
Rep Latham, Tom [IA-4] - 4/21/2009
Rep LaTourette, Steven C. [OH-14] - 4/28/2009
Rep Latta, Robert E. [OH-5] - 5/20/2009
Rep Lee, Christopher J. [NY-26] - 6/10/2009
Rep Lewis, Jerry [CA-41] - 6/24/2009
Rep Linder, John [GA-7] - 5/6/2009
Rep Lipinski, Daniel [IL-3] - 6/4/2009
Rep LoBiondo, Frank A. [NJ-2] - 5/4/2009
Rep Loebsack, David [IA-2] - 6/10/2009
Rep Lofgren, Zoe [CA-16] - 7/7/2009
Rep Lucas, Frank D. [OK-3] - 4/21/2009
Rep Luetkemeyer, Blaine [MO-9] - 4/21/2009
Rep Lummis, Cynthia M. [WY] - 3/19/2009
Rep Lungren, Daniel E. [CA-3] - 5/7/2009
Rep Mack, Connie [FL-14] - 5/12/2009
Rep Maffei, Daniel B. [NY-25] - 5/12/2009
Rep Manzullo, Donald A. [IL-16] - 4/21/2009
Rep Marchant, Kenny [TX-24] - 3/11/2009
Rep Markey, Betsy [CO-4] - 6/25/2009
Rep Massa, Eric J. J. [NY-29] - 4/22/2009
Rep McCarthy, Kevin [CA-22] - 5/4/2009
Rep McCaul, Michael T. [TX-10] - 4/21/2009
Rep McClintock, Tom [CA-4] - 3/6/2009
Rep McCotter, Thaddeus G. [MI-11] - 3/19/2009
Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 4/29/2009
Rep McGovern, James P. [MA-3] - 6/10/2009
Rep McHenry, Patrick T. [NC-10] - 4/30/2009
Rep McHugh, John M. [NY-23] - 5/4/2009
Rep McIntyre, Mike [NC-7] - 6/10/2009
Rep McKeon, Howard P. "Buck" [CA-25] - 6/11/2009
Rep McMorris Rodgers, Cathy [WA-5] - 5/4/2009
Rep Melancon, Charlie [LA-3] - 7/10/2009
Rep Mica, John L. [FL-7] - 5/12/2009
Rep Michaud, Michael H. [ME-2] - 5/7/2009
Rep Miller, Candice S. [MI-10] - 4/28/2009
Rep Miller, Gary G. [CA-42] - 6/10/2009
Rep Miller, Jeff [FL-1] - 3/24/2009
Rep Minnick, Walter [ID-1] - 5/13/2009
Rep Mitchell, Harry E. [AZ-5] - 6/9/2009
Rep Moran, Jerry [KS-1] - 5/4/2009
Rep Murphy, Christopher S. [CT-5] - 7/7/2009
Rep Murphy, Patrick J. [PA-8] - 6/9/2009
Rep Murphy, Scott [NY-20] - 7/9/2009
Rep Murphy, Tim [PA-18] - 4/29/2009
Rep Myrick, Sue Wilkins [NC-9] - 4/28/2009
Rep Neugebauer, Randy [TX-19] - 4/30/2009
Rep Nunes, Devin [CA-21] - 6/12/2009
Rep Olson, Pete [TX-22] - 4/21/2009
Rep Ortiz, Solomon P. [TX-27] - 5/14/2009
Rep Pascrell, Bill, Jr. [NJ-8] - 6/9/2009
Rep Pastor, Ed [AZ-4] - 5/20/2009
Rep Paulsen, Erik [MN-3] - 3/30/2009
Rep Pence, Mike [IN-6] - 4/21/2009
Rep Perlmutter, Ed [CO-7] - 6/10/2009
Rep Perriello, Thomas S.P. [VA-5] - 5/13/2009
Rep Peterson, Collin C. [MN-7] - 3/19/2009
Rep Petri, Thomas E. [WI-6] - 3/10/2009
Rep Pitts, Joseph R. [PA-16] - 4/28/2009
Rep Platts, Todd Russell [PA-19] - 3/19/2009
Rep Poe, Ted [TX-2] - 2/26/2009
Rep Polis, Jared [CO-2] - 6/11/2009
Rep Posey, Bill [FL-15] - 2/26/2009
Rep Price, Tom [GA-6] - 3/10/2009
Rep Putnam, Adam H. [FL-12] - 4/28/2009
Rep Radanovich, George [CA-19] - 5/6/2009
Rep Rehberg, Denny [MT] - 2/26/2009
Rep Reichert, David G. [WA-8] - 5/20/2009
Rep Roe, David P. [TN-1] - 4/21/2009
Rep Rogers, Harold [KY-5] - 7/14/2009
Rep Rogers, Mike D. [AL-3] - 5/13/2009
Rep Rogers, Mike J. [MI-8] - 5/20/2009
Rep Rohrabacher, Dana [CA-46] - 3/6/2009
Rep Rooney, Thomas J. [FL-16] - 4/22/2009
Rep Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana [FL-18] - 4/28/2009
Rep Roskam, Peter J. [IL-6] - 6/2/2009
Rep Ross, Mike [AR-4] - 5/21/2009
Rep Rothman, Steven R. [NJ-9] - 6/18/2009
Rep Royce, Edward R. [CA-40] - 5/12/2009
Rep Ryan, Paul [WI-1] - 5/14/2009
Rep Salazar, John T. [CO-3] - 7/15/2009
Rep Sarbanes, John P. [MD-3] - 6/15/2009
Rep Scalise, Steve [LA-1] - 5/20/2009
Rep Schakowsky, Janice D. [IL-9] - 5/6/2009
Rep Schauer, Mark H. [MI-7] - 5/20/2009
Rep Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29] - 7/14/2009
Rep Schmidt, Jean [OH-2] - 6/11/2009
Rep Schock, Aaron [IL-18] - 5/6/2009
Rep Scott, David [GA-13] - 7/20/2009
Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. [WI-5] - 5/7/2009
Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] - 3/23/2009
Rep Shadegg, John B. [AZ-3] - 5/7/2009
Rep Shea-Porter, Carol [NH-1] - 6/9/2009
Rep Sherman, Brad [CA-27] - 6/23/2009
Rep Shimkus, John [IL-19] - 4/22/2009
Rep Shuler, Heath [NC-11] - 6/12/2009
Rep Shuster, Bill [PA-9] - 5/7/2009
Rep Simpson, Michael K. [ID-2] - 4/28/2009
Rep Slaughter, Louise McIntosh [NY-28] - 6/17/2009
Rep Smith, Adam [WA-9] - 4/22/2009
Rep Smith, Adrian [NE-3] - 4/28/2009
Rep Smith, Christopher H. [NJ-4] - 6/15/2009
Rep Smith, Lamar [TX-21] - 4/2/2009
Rep Snyder, Vic [AR-2] - 6/23/2009
Rep Souder, Mark E. [IN-3] - 6/16/2009
Rep Space, Zachary T. [OH-18] - 6/23/2009
Rep Speier, Jackie [CA-12] - 6/11/2009
Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 3/26/2009
Rep Stearns, Cliff [FL-6] - 3/6/2009
Rep Sullivan, John [OK-1] - 7/8/2009
Rep Taylor, Gene [MS-4] - 3/6/2009
Rep Teague, Harry [NM-2] - 6/12/2009
Rep Terry, Lee [NE-2] - 3/30/2009
Rep Thompson, Bennie G. [MS-2] - 7/17/2009
Rep Thompson, Glenn [PA-5] - 4/22/2009
Rep Thornberry, Mac [TX-13] - 5/21/2009
Rep Tiahrt, Todd [KS-4] - 4/28/2009
Rep Tiberi, Patrick J. [OH-12] - 4/28/2009
Rep Tierney, John F. [MA-6] - 7/20/2009
Rep Titus, Dina [NV-3] - 7/14/2009
Rep Tonko, Paul D. [NY-21] - 6/9/2009
Rep Turner, Michael R. [OH-3] - 5/13/2009
Rep Upton, Fred [MI-6] - 4/29/2009
Rep Visclosky, Peter J. [IN-1] - 7/20/2009
Rep Walden, Greg [OR-2] - 5/4/2009
Rep Walz, Timothy J. [MN-1] - 5/7/2009
Rep Wamp, Zach [TN-3] - 3/16/2009
Rep Welch, Peter [VT] - 5/21/2009
Rep Westmoreland, Lynn A. [GA-3] - 4/2/2009
Rep Whitfield, Ed [KY-1] - 5/14/2009
Rep Wilson, Joe [SC-2] - 4/29/2009
Rep Wittman, Robert J. [VA-1] - 4/1/2009
Rep Wolf, Frank R. [VA-10] - 6/11/2009
Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. [CA-6] - 2/26/2009
Rep Wu, David [OR-1] - 7/13/2009
Rep Yarmuth, John A. [KY-3] - 7/14/2009
Rep Young, C.W. Bill [FL-10] - 6/3/2009
Rep Young, Don [AK] - 3/6/2009
I definitely recommend seeing if your rep is there - if you don't know who that is or something I'd be more than glad to help
As for S. 604 (the Senate version) there actually is better progress than I thought there would be by this point with 19 cosponsors
Here is the list (I'll do this one by date signed on) + Show Spoiler +
Sen DeMint, Jim [SC] - 6/11/2009
Sen Vitter, David [LA] - 6/16/2009
Sen Crapo, Mike [ID] - 6/25/2009
Sen Isakson, Johnny [GA] - 7/8/2009
Sen Chambliss, Saxby [GA] - 7/8/2009
Sen Brownback, Sam [KS] - 7/8/2009
Sen Inhofe, James M. [OK] - 7/9/2009
Sen Burr, Richard [NC] - 7/9/2009
Sen Feingold, Russell D. [WI] - 7/15/2009
Sen Lincoln, Blanche L. [AR] - 7/15/2009
Sen McCain, John [AZ] - 7/15/2009
Sen Bennett, Robert F. [UT] - 7/15/2009
Sen Barrasso, John [WY] - 7/15/2009
Sen Harkin, Tom [IA] - 7/20/2009
Sen Hutchison, Kay Bailey [TX] - 7/20/2009
Sen Cornyn, John [TX] - 7/20/2009
Sen Coburn, Tom [OK] - 7/20/2009
Sen Hatch, Orrin G. [UT] - 7/24/2009
Sen Graham, Lindsey [SC] - 7/24/2009
both of the senators for my state are now on this so there isn't really any one for me to say hey wtf to anymore
if you ur even remotely curious to find out about ur community, this bill is a GREAT way to find out which side of the fence your state or district reps are really on
fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity
Last edit: 26/07/2009 00:06
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ToTehEastSide United States. Jul 26 2009 00:16. Posts 1337
because to me the question is
are you more REPRESENTED or TAXED??
and this is a fine way to tell
lol. Big FUCK YOU to all the congressmen, senators and American people I guess!
heh
if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN
why did u remove the picture that was sooo good. PUT it back on plz
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ToTehEastSide United States. Dec 01 2009 04:56. Posts 1337
ok how to summarize real quick
When the FED even has the President in it's pocket it is not a real big surprise or prediction that H.R. 1207 will somehow fail when pushed through the legal processes
I mean who in Washington really wants transparency and accountability? come on now
You're definitely right in the sense that there is a big FUCK YOU there.. it just takes a little education, common sense and/or honesty to see it. That gutting attempt is only the beginning.
The powers that be do not want the public 'below' them to be well informed on things of real importance as they steadily rape the scene behind closed doors. This is often the natural principle applied to usage of power once gained.
As for Mel Watts attempted amendment, cliffnotes is that was met/debated/countered/defeated with the Paul/Grayson amendment.
Once the Paul/Grayson amendment replaced Watts, then H.R. 1207 was voted upon and passed 43-26 Here is a good article about it.
The list of Congressmen that were there that voted against it + Show Spoiler +
NAY - Rep. Barney Frank, MA
NAY - Rep. Paul E. Kanjorski, PA
NAY - Rep. Maxine Waters, CA
NAY - Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney, NY
NAY - Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez, IL
NAY - Rep. Nydia M. Velázquez, NY
NAY - Rep. Melvin L. Watt, NC
NAY - Rep. Gary L. Ackerman, NY
NAY - Rep. Gregory W. Meeks, NY
NAY - Rep. Dennis Moore, KS
NAY - Rep. Michael E. Capuano, MA
NAY - Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, NY
NAY - Rep. Joe Baca, CA
NAY - Rep. Stephen F. Lynch, MA
NAY - Rep. Brad Miller, NC
NAY - Rep. Al Green, TX
NAY - Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, MO
NAY - Rep. Melissa L. Bean, IL
NAY - Rep. Gwen Moore, WI
NAY - Rep. Keith Ellison, MN
NAY - Rep. Ron Klein, FL
NAY - Rep. Charles Wilson, OH
NAY - Rep. Joe Donnelly, IN
NAY - Rep. Bill Foster, IL
NAY - Rep. Andre Carson, IN
NAY - Rep. Mary Jo Kilroy, OH
NAY - Rep. Jim Himes, CT
I'd like to point out the first one on that list.. who literally voted against it out of the side of his mouth.
I think many people here at LP ignorantly adore this guy because they think he is here for them on poker which is absolutely a great laugh
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