Moving to Mexico; Letter to Obama - Page 2

On October 04 2009 21:36 ToTehEastSide wrote: hiya Newb =D

i can't quit looking at this picture, that's phenomenal.

On October 04 2009 22:20 ToTehEastSide wrote: ok I too am not looking to start another healthcare debate (it is my least favorite topic for a few reasons) so I will just respond to what you say. My reply to your last post is it's a shame your letting your emotions make the decision to have the government be the answer/solution to health care. If only you could see past the candy and realize the pandora's box this decision will put you and us in.

Wait, its going to be a problem for mexicans? I thought you were leaving, escaping the pandora's box.

Holy shit, LP may be the worst place to talk politics, ever.

Clutch

a) no I'm not leaving (I didn't write the OP and I don't know who did except it's a lady)
b) the pandora's box I mention thankfully isn't fully created yet
c) do you think illegal immigration is a problem? If yes why do you think so? Why do you think many ppl of many different countries are desperate to come here?
d) if LP is even remotely close to being the worst place to talk politics... lucky you and don't post about them then? dunno what to else to say to that opinion..

On October 05 2009 00:02 CrownRoyal wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2009 21:36 ToTehEastSide wrote: hiya Newb =D i can't quit looking at this picture, that's phenomenal.

hehe thought so too CR
if you liked that, ever seen this?

On October 04 2009 23:41 hhse wrote: I understand where you are coming from, but you are foregetting that agriculture is one of the U.S largest exports. And it is the underpaid illegal immigrants that are partially supporting it.

ok and so... . ?
what about that partial support?
I'm missing something and because I failed to see ur point clear enough I can't respond =[
could u go more in depth so I don't assume plz?

also since u are saying that I am forgetting something let me state... you do know that out of everything my number one issue is with the FED and it's inflation/deflation, minimum wage/legal tender laws and control of money/prices etc right? And that even in this issue (that many will not talk about) of "illegals" those very important things I just mentioned are imo intertwined. Everything always ties back to the FED.

"Give me control over a nations currency, and I care not who makes its laws.”
Baron M.A. Rothschild

This is absolutely retarded, i mean seriously....

"11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put U S. flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals."


are you fucking insane? -_-


Also i dont get it, you mention your hypocrisy yet you still hold the same opinion after you realize you aren an hypocrite, makes no sense.

I'm gonna make this as short as possible

"This is absolutely retarded, i mean seriously....

"11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put U S. flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals."


are you fucking insane? -_-"

I know right?
this is exactly what is happening here - just change the flags and country around
and yep, I'd be insane to complain about that.... . . .heaven forbid I even bring it up!
(oh and hell yes I'm far from normal, I live in the mouth of madness; currently it sucks to be in reality)


"Also i dont get it, you mention your hypocrisy yet you still hold the same opinion after you realize you aren an hypocrite, makes no sense."

It is because the question is, do you support giving illegal aliens tax payer supported free socialized health care?
it all revolves around TAXES
do the right thing and your getting screwed

I'm totally gonna dread today..

On October 05 2009 03:03 ToTehEastSide wrote: I'm gonna make this as short as possible "This is absolutely retarded, i mean seriously.... "11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put U S. flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals." are you fucking insane? -_-" I know right? this is exactly what is happening here - just change the flags and country around and yep, I'd be insane to complain about that.... . . .heaven forbid I even bring it up! (oh and hell yes I'm far from normal, I live in the mouth of madness; currently it sucks to be in reality) "Also i dont get it, you mention your hypocrisy yet you still hold the same opinion after you realize you aren an hypocrite, makes no sense." It is because the question is, do you support giving illegal aliens tax payer supported free socialized health care? it all revolves around TAXES do the right thing and your getting screwed I'm totally gonna dread today..

i dont get what you are trying to say... you think its ok for you to complain about Mexicans celebrating a mexican festivity and having flags of mexico?, if so you are a fucking idiot so i hope you are not.

Baal..... ;;

lol-_-

what i thought was funny was a couple years ago in LA thousands and thousands of Mexican immigrants held a rally/protest for wanting easier access to come over, everyone whose already here should be granted citizenship etc etc, and the funny part was 1) many of them were arrested and sent back to Mexico because their not citizens, so they don't have the right to protest in the 1st place, and 2) they were all waving the Mexican national flag!?!?!? i just don't get it. I WANT TO BE AN AMERICAN!!!!!!! YEAHHHHHHHH!

On October 05 2009 05:59 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2009 03:03 ToTehEastSide wrote: I'm gonna make this as short as possible "This is absolutely retarded, i mean seriously.... "11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put U S. flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals." are you fucking insane? -_-" I know right? this is exactly what is happening here - just change the flags and country around and yep, I'd be insane to complain about that.... . . .heaven forbid I even bring it up! (oh and hell yes I'm far from normal, I live in the mouth of madness; currently it sucks to be in reality) "Also i dont get it, you mention your hypocrisy yet you still hold the same opinion after you realize you aren an hypocrite, makes no sense." It is because the question is, do you support giving illegal aliens tax payer supported free socialized health care? it all revolves around TAXES do the right thing and your getting screwed I'm totally gonna dread today.. i dont get what you are trying to say... you think its ok for you to complain about Mexicans celebrating a mexican festivity and having flags of mexico?, if so you are a fucking idiot so i hope you are not.

Baal your just being biased and trying to nitpick to defend your country.
Now that's totally understandable since after all, I too am defending mine

But why in your eyes am I not allowed to do so? Why is this not ok with you Baal? Even in my own country?
I didn't say or quote anything about Cinco de Mayo and personally I think nothing blinds a person better than a flag.
Yet while I also think there are TONS of things wrong with our current system... this country is by far better than any current or previous system of government ever established and for all of us I will ultimately fight for it's survival, hypocrites and all.

To see what that statement you quoted means and where I am coming from, let's take both of our countries out of it shall we? That way neither one of us can be biased.
What if China went into India and started raising their nation's flag over India?
Or if you prefer we could do it the other way around.
What if India went into China and started raising their nation's flag over China?
Really for this example we could take any country and it's neighbor and it will work.

Now I wonder and have to ask, why are you arguing and standing up for your country? I know you believe in anarchy but as you actions in this discussion show, not entirely. Like you said to me, I don't really get what you are trying to say.

also P.S.
have we not already well established that I'm a fucking idiot or whatever piece of slander that fits the mood for all of you guys that disagree prefer to call me?

this is all way too xenophobic for my taste

ya it's a gritty issue but it sounds like you are perhaps looking at it more from a racial perspective than a legal perspective then

here check this video out
well worth the watch imo


personally I could care less about the racial aspect of it
I love/hate things from all races and cultures
but that's just me

On October 04 2009 23:41 hhse wrote: I understand where you are coming from, but you are foregetting that agriculture is one of the U.S largest exports. And it is the underpaid illegal immigrants that are partially supporting it.

This is absolutely 100% incorrect. The United States largest exports are in high-technology industries, such as computers, pharmaceuticals, air crafts, etc. Industries like these push for liberalization, while in contrast, labor intensive industries push for protectionism. The capability for a country to manufacturer is what distinguishes them from a non industrialized country (developing) from an actual industrialized one (developed: The United States, EU).

So basically your statement implies that the United States economy is based on export commodities such as coffee, sugar, minerals, etc. If this were the case, we would be equivalent to a developing country that relied on raw sources, land, and labor. Haha, but in reality we are a powerful industrialized country because we have the capital, research, and development.

People that are employed in high industrialized industries tend to be more educated, skilled, and therefore make more money. The people that are in employed in agricultural industries are the complete opposite. So the only people these illegal immigrants maybe hurting is at a domestic level. So your argument that these people hurt my country at an international level is completely invalid.

I rescind my comment.

=)

On October 05 2009 18:47 hhse wrote: I rescind my comment. =)

I'll let you get away with that one since you are from Australia

hey wow thanks Holly =]

I live in Canada so I have health care, and yes it saves you money because the basic medical health care stops becoming a business so you don't have to pay 500$ for an antibiotic.

toteheastside is a chick?