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Edjon   Netherlands. Oct 26 2009 06:59. Posts 1579

hi all,

I am right now in Vegas and am playing the live full ring games for a couple of days. I am normally a 6 max player online and am trying to adjust my game to live play. I do play the 1/2 NL games and one of my observations is that isolating is hardly impossible. Most pots are 4 way or even more, even if I (or someone else) raises 6/7 bb's. Stealing the blinds is also a rarity, since you can hardly open raise on the cu/b.

My adjustments is that I tightened up and try to play speculative hands big and strong hands fast. It is a bit boring, since I am waiting for good hands and flops to come.
I also limp raise AA/KK sometimes, bc I like raise, call, call, call, call, call less than limp, call, raise, call, call, call, big reraise.


Does anyone have some good advice to adjust to live full ring games?

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salutary   Australia. Oct 26 2009 07:09. Posts 362

setmining gets paid off like...always


wolfheart   Estonia. Oct 26 2009 07:55. Posts 7592

live play is so wild .. sometimes its opened 25bbs and 6 players in pot ..so before flop 125bbs are in pot ..and god i have seen 700 bbs pots won with jack high

Never give up. 

genjix   China. Oct 26 2009 08:11. Posts 2677

live is fun

If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. 

genjix   China. Oct 26 2009 08:12. Posts 2677

its plays worse than nl2 online so i dont know why you need to adjust

If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. 

maryn   Poland. Oct 26 2009 08:27. Posts 1208


  On October 26 2009 07:12 genjix wrote:
its plays worse than nl2 online so i dont know why you need to adjust


lol


MiPwnYa    Brasil. Oct 26 2009 11:13. Posts 5230

LIVE IS EASY YOU JUST NEED TO DRINK MORE THAN WHEN YOU PLAY ONLINE


FrinkX   United States. Oct 26 2009 12:45. Posts 7562


  On October 26 2009 05:59 Edjon wrote:
Most pots are 4 way or even more, even if I (or someone else) raises 6/7 bb's.

My adjustments is that I tightened



what? why would u make such a horrible adjustment

your adjustment should be to raise to 10/11 bb or something. if they keep calling just keep increasing the amount you're going to raise

bitch on a pension suck my dong 

acdawg712   United States. Oct 26 2009 13:29. Posts 2639

something that is profitable at 1/2 is attacking limped pots. Double barrelling postflop usually takes it down sans the worst board textures. Also, if someone makes a weak bet at say a 932r board in a limped pot, floating with something like 2 overs and backdoor draws is ok because the number of good turn cards for our hands/good bluff cards like any point card, as is raising with something like bottom pair and betting turn scarecard to get him off his tpwk.

phil hellmuth is genuinely a stupid person and he does not understand poker very well at all - [vital]myth 

genjix   China. Oct 26 2009 14:10. Posts 2677


  On October 26 2009 12:29 acdawg712 wrote:
something that is profitable at 1/2 is attacking limped pots. Double barrelling postflop usually takes it down sans the worst board textures. Also, if someone makes a weak bet at say a 932r board in a limped pot, floating with something like 2 overs and backdoor draws is ok because the number of good turn cards for our hands/good bluff cards like any point card, as is raising with something like bottom pair and betting turn scarecard to get him off his tpwk.



no one folds tpwk. dont try.

tighten up preflop, loosen up postflop.

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4Kingell   United Kingdom. Oct 26 2009 14:17. Posts 1453


  On October 26 2009 13:10 genjix wrote:
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no one folds tpwk. dont try.

tighten up preflop, loosen up postflop.


I agree - this is my experience too. Trying to get anyone to fold a decent pair is tough - sometimes getting them to fold any pair is tough so just value town when you have the goods and work out who is weak and will fold and who is a calling station - oh yeah and who is the maniac who will shove bottom pair on a 3 flush 3 str8 board....

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TimDawg    United States. Oct 26 2009 14:44. Posts 10197

play 100% of your hands

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Oct 26 2009 16:36. Posts 5122

Some of the play like the first seasons of high stakes poker by limping along is probably good ?

My online playing style was acctually not very good in the Las Vegas games. Weak Tight is probably much better

:D 

Joe   Czech Republic. Oct 26 2009 16:46. Posts 5987

Play 80/60, open to 10-12 bb and isolate by shoving. Works quite fine in my local casino at low stakes. Well at least you will not get bored

there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) 

YoMeR   United States. Oct 26 2009 19:47. Posts 12438

i play almost any 2 in the later positions cuz it's easy to rape fish for huge profits that way. OOP i just tighten up and value town.

not really to adjust to. you might over adjust and own yourself against these types of horrid players.

eZ Life. 

genjix   China. Oct 26 2009 21:32. Posts 2677


  On October 26 2009 18:47 YoMeR wrote:
i play almost any 2 in the later positions cuz it's easy to rape fish for huge profits that way. OOP i just tighten up and value town.

not really to adjust to. you might over adjust and own yourself against these types of horrid players.



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YoMeR on the button with A2o does what? raise?

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Maynard!   United States. Oct 26 2009 21:46. Posts 4453

(1) Have BR
(2) Have patience
(3) Have a skillset able to beat micro stakes.
(4) Profit.

My wife played there for about a weak and she cleaned up. She's a slight winner at 100nl.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

SpasticInk   Sweden. Oct 26 2009 21:59. Posts 6298

I have only been to the local casino in Sweden, and basically the lowest level (20sek/20sek (which is like 3$/3$) plays like a 45 % VPIP table at NL 5.

I remember the first two hands i had in EP (FR), first TT which i open up to "standard 4xbb", and 6 people saw a flop.

Second time i got KK UTG+1 and raised it up 15bb, and still got three callers.

Often it's just limped around the table. Isolating is a lot harder than online unless you raise it huge. But on the other hand, you can play plenty of more hands because not many isolates your limps etc. without a hand. Then they tend to overplay their hands in multiway pots (J9o plays it like the nuts on J52 board in a 5-way pot).

I dont see any justification for tighten up preflop. You can see tons of flops cheaply and then pretty much get action every time you hit.


SpasticInk   Sweden. Oct 26 2009 22:01. Posts 6298

And still being able to raise it to 15bb pf and get action when you get AA.

It's like heaven (talking about low stakes now..)


Maynard!   United States. Oct 26 2009 22:07. Posts 4453

If you could only 24 table live 1/2. You'd easily make 1k/hr.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

 
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