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Edjon   Netherlands. Oct 26 2009 06:59. Posts 1579 | | |
hi all,
I am right now in Vegas and am playing the live full ring games for a couple of days. I am normally a 6 max player online and am trying to adjust my game to live play. I do play the 1/2 NL games and one of my observations is that isolating is hardly impossible. Most pots are 4 way or even more, even if I (or someone else) raises 6/7 bb's. Stealing the blinds is also a rarity, since you can hardly open raise on the cu/b.
My adjustments is that I tightened up and try to play speculative hands big and strong hands fast. It is a bit boring, since I am waiting for good hands and flops to come.
I also limp raise AA/KK sometimes, bc I like raise, call, call, call, call, call less than limp, call, raise, call, call, call, big reraise.
Does anyone have some good advice to adjust to live full ring games?
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salutary   Australia. Oct 26 2009 07:09. Posts 362 | | |
setmining gets paid off like...always |
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wolfheart   Estonia. Oct 26 2009 07:55. Posts 7592 | | |
live play is so wild .. sometimes its opened 25bbs and 6 players in pot ..so before flop 125bbs are in pot ..and god i have seen 700 bbs pots won with jack high |
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genjix   China. Oct 26 2009 08:11. Posts 2677 | | |
live is fun  |
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genjix   China. Oct 26 2009 08:12. Posts 2677 | | |
its plays worse than nl2 online so i dont know why you need to adjust |
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maryn   Poland. Oct 26 2009 08:27. Posts 1208 | | |
| On October 26 2009 07:12 genjix wrote:
its plays worse than nl2 online so i dont know why you need to adjust |
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MiPwnYa   Brasil. Oct 26 2009 11:13. Posts 5230 | | |
LIVE IS EASY YOU JUST NEED TO DRINK MORE THAN WHEN YOU PLAY ONLINE |
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FrinkX   United States. Oct 26 2009 12:45. Posts 7562 | | |
| On October 26 2009 05:59 Edjon wrote:
Most pots are 4 way or even more, even if I (or someone else) raises 6/7 bb's.
My adjustments is that I tightened
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what? why would u make such a horrible adjustment
your adjustment should be to raise to 10/11 bb or something. if they keep calling just keep increasing the amount you're going to raise |
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acdawg712   United States. Oct 26 2009 13:29. Posts 2639 | | |
something that is profitable at 1/2 is attacking limped pots. Double barrelling postflop usually takes it down sans the worst board textures. Also, if someone makes a weak bet at say a 932r board in a limped pot, floating with something like 2 overs and backdoor draws is ok because the number of good turn cards for our hands/good bluff cards like any point card, as is raising with something like bottom pair and betting turn scarecard to get him off his tpwk. |
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genjix   China. Oct 26 2009 14:10. Posts 2677 | | |
| On October 26 2009 12:29 acdawg712 wrote:
something that is profitable at 1/2 is attacking limped pots. Double barrelling postflop usually takes it down sans the worst board textures. Also, if someone makes a weak bet at say a 932r board in a limped pot, floating with something like 2 overs and backdoor draws is ok because the number of good turn cards for our hands/good bluff cards like any point card, as is raising with something like bottom pair and betting turn scarecard to get him off his tpwk. |
no one folds tpwk. dont try.
tighten up preflop, loosen up postflop. |
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4Kingell   United Kingdom. Oct 26 2009 14:17. Posts 1453 | | |
| On October 26 2009 13:10 genjix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2009 12:29 acdawg712 wrote:
something that is profitable at 1/2 is attacking limped pots. Double barrelling postflop usually takes it down sans the worst board textures. Also, if someone makes a weak bet at say a 932r board in a limped pot, floating with something like 2 overs and backdoor draws is ok because the number of good turn cards for our hands/good bluff cards like any point card, as is raising with something like bottom pair and betting turn scarecard to get him off his tpwk. |
no one folds tpwk. dont try.
tighten up preflop, loosen up postflop.
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I agree - this is my experience too. Trying to get anyone to fold a decent pair is tough - sometimes getting them to fold any pair is tough so just value town when you have the goods and work out who is weak and will fold and who is a calling station - oh yeah and who is the maniac who will shove bottom pair on a 3 flush 3 str8 board.... |
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TimDawg   United States. Oct 26 2009 14:44. Posts 10197 | | |
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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Oct 26 2009 16:36. Posts 5122 | | |
Some of the play like the first seasons of high stakes poker by limping along is probably good ?
My online playing style was acctually not very good in the Las Vegas games. Weak Tight is probably much better |
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Joe   Czech Republic. Oct 26 2009 16:46. Posts 5987 | | |
Play 80/60, open to 10-12 bb and isolate by shoving. Works quite fine in my local casino at low stakes. Well at least you will not get bored  |
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YoMeR   United States. Oct 26 2009 19:47. Posts 12438 | | |
i play almost any 2 in the later positions cuz it's easy to rape fish for huge profits that way. OOP i just tighten up and value town.
not really to adjust to. you might over adjust and own yourself against these types of horrid players. |
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genjix   China. Oct 26 2009 21:32. Posts 2677 | | |
| On October 26 2009 18:47 YoMeR wrote:
i play almost any 2 in the later positions cuz it's easy to rape fish for huge profits that way. OOP i just tighten up and value town.
not really to adjust to. you might over adjust and own yourself against these types of horrid players. |
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YoMeR on the button with A2o does what? raise? |
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Maynard!   United States. Oct 26 2009 21:46. Posts 4453 | | |
(1) Have BR
(2) Have patience
(3) Have a skillset able to beat micro stakes.
(4) Profit.
My wife played there for about a weak and she cleaned up. She's a slight winner at 100nl. |
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SpasticInk   Sweden. Oct 26 2009 21:59. Posts 6298 | | |
I have only been to the local casino in Sweden, and basically the lowest level (20sek/20sek (which is like 3$/3$) plays like a 45 % VPIP table at NL 5.
I remember the first two hands i had in EP (FR), first TT which i open up to "standard 4xbb", and 6 people saw a flop.
Second time i got KK UTG+1 and raised it up 15bb, and still got three callers.
Often it's just limped around the table. Isolating is a lot harder than online unless you raise it huge. But on the other hand, you can play plenty of more hands because not many isolates your limps etc. without a hand. Then they tend to overplay their hands in multiway pots (J9o plays it like the nuts on J52 board in a 5-way pot).
I dont see any justification for tighten up preflop. You can see tons of flops cheaply and then pretty much get action every time you hit. |
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SpasticInk   Sweden. Oct 26 2009 22:01. Posts 6298 | | |
And still being able to raise it to 15bb pf and get action when you get AA.
It's like heaven (talking about low stakes now..) |
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Maynard!   United States. Oct 26 2009 22:07. Posts 4453 | | |
If you could only 24 table live 1/2. You'd easily make 1k/hr. |
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Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. | |
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