Hostility towards hellmuth ? - Page 2

that video makes him look really bad =/ lol. i gotta admit. But seriously chile? TOM DURR? you think durr is better then elky ? or hansen? or even doyle ? lol idk man.

how many holdem bracelets hellmuth has won ?

THAT VIDEO MAKES ME WANT TO KILL THINGS FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

On November 05 2009 21:16 VeGeTTa89 wrote: that video makes him look really bad =/ lol. i gotta admit. But seriously chile? TOM DURR? you think durr is better then elky ? or hansen? or even doyle ? lol idk man.

Durrrr is way way way way way way better than Elky, Hansen or Doyle.

Best holdem cash player is durrr, galfond, ivey antonious.

Best overall poker player, ivey, then i have no clue, antonious/benymaine maybe? no idea

according to HSDB since 2007

Name Money won
Phil Ivey ::$13.174.455,96
Patrik Antonius:: $8.118.925,35
OMGClayAiken :: $7.555.339,44
Urindanger :: $4.705.220,70
durrrr :: $3.935.172,80
Ziigmund :: $3.886.518,43

On November 05 2009 20:26 VeGeTTa89 wrote: WTF is everyones problem on LP with hellmuth? Sure hes an asshole. But so are half the people on these boards. The guys a fucking legend. 13 Bracelets ? He is the best no limit player up to this point. Why is everyone talking shit about me reading his book?

whose gimmick account is this?

yeah vegetta man i'm now 100% convinced that you are just a troll

how is doyle not mentioned in this thread? why is benyamine mentioned before doyle????

btw LOL @ hellmuth being the best poker player in the world...i wouldnt even put him in the top 100

Phil might be a legend, but as most legends this one is based on false information and fairy tales. He really isn't good. You can find that out by listening to good players analyzing his play. There's simply no way that a play that has bad logic behind it can be better than one with good logic. It's sort of contradicting to say that you should just trust the solid winners at the higher stakes, but it's true. And the online pros who are really good and constantly say that phil is bad actually have a good sample size to show for it. I mean, christ, internet players can put in his whole lifetime of tourneys in one month. It's not like he's got a proper sample size.

On November 05 2009 21:16 VeGeTTa89 wrote: that video makes him look really bad =/ lol. i gotta admit. But seriously chile? TOM DURR? you think durr is better then elky ? or hansen? or even doyle ? lol idk man.

When there are players who actually bumhunt Hansen, then well..

I don't know much about doyle, Elky is obv good but no Durr.

You sure you're not trolling? or even leveling? lol idk man.

guy seems to be a troll and a fish from the 1 hand he posted

Hellmuth has 11 bracelets but bracelets mean way more now than they did back then. Back then Phil H. was playing in tournaments where there were 300-500 players per field. Nowadays there are up to 5000+ players playing in one single tournament. Thus people tend to over value his 11 bracelets nowadays.

P.S. only watch Phil videos for comedic purposes.

Almost seems like a troll post.

Hellmuth is easily the biggest name with the most over deserved fame. Atrocious and utterly horrible cash game player, average live tournament player.

I hate people who think winning braclets is a representation of skill. I would much rather award a regular at 2/4 who can grind out 50 buy ins in the span of a week than award some idiot like phil hellmuth for winning donkaments(alot of them a long as hell time ago and alot of them with way less players than WSOP events these days).

just my thoughts.

Allen cunningham best NLHE TOURNEY player. Yup I said it!

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gawd wtf his stealing blinds theory makes no fukking sense. Why would you attempt to steal 1000$BB from a BB with stack size of 2000$? That means the BB has to call with any two. Is Phil Hellmuth a troll himself?

if you get sponsored and play every single tournament for like 30 years you better damn well win 13 bracelets

Dude, seriously, do yourself a favor and just lurk the forums for a few more months before you post again...

listen to your dragonball brethren

but on a side note

On November 05 2009 21:26 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On November 05 2009 21:16 VeGeTTa89 wrote: that video makes him look really bad =/ lol. i gotta admit. But seriously chile? TOM DURR? you think durr is better then elky ? or hansen? or even doyle ? lol idk man. Durrrr is way way way way way way better than Elky, Hansen or Doyle.

how can you say that? i mean durrr being better than everyone else by such a huge margin. i mean obv i don't doubt dur> hansen + doyle, but antonius, ivey, even elky (i dunno never seen him play cash games or anything)
unless i'm mistaken i thought edges were marginal among the best players?