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SpeedyJack   United States. Jan 10 2010 10:32. Posts 618

I can't believe someone would say that it's reasonable to disappear without a word mid-trade.

It's not.


DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Jan 10 2010 10:42. Posts 8623


  On January 10 2010 09:17 byrnesam wrote:
Logiabs wasnt a random either



No I know, but that doens't mean that being a somewhat well known poster shouldn't count for something.

Also obviously I agree that it's weird/bad to go to sleep mid-transfer, but that makes him something of a fuck up and maybe a little bit of a bad person, but so far I wouldn't go so far as to call him scammer. Potential scammer maybe.


Nazgul    Netherlands. Jan 10 2010 10:48. Posts 7080


  On January 10 2010 09:21 Ket wrote:
it was a little early to change the thread title. until the money is received that remains true.
wtf nadeem?


I think you got it backwards, until intent is more obvious it remains a misunderstanding. You don't just call people scammers in the midst of them claiming they are trying to send the money.

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

Twisted    Netherlands. Jan 10 2010 11:17. Posts 10422

I was under the impression by Nadeem's posts that he had sent the money but the transfer simply didn't go through due to some technical error by PS or some mistake by Nadeem. Not that he just left mid-transfer. :/

My main concern is that OP was very quick to call out scammer while it was just a few hours ago. Making a topic is not all bad but OP made it look like a clear cut case that Nadeem was running with the money. Apparently it wasn't as clear cut. Our integrity is pretty much all we have when it comes to poker communities like this. Once someone tarnishes someone's reputation by a topic like this, they'd better be sure about their shit.

 Last edit: 10/01/2010 11:21

Garfed   Malta. Jan 10 2010 11:24. Posts 4818


  On January 10 2010 10:17 Twisted wrote:
I was under the impression by Nadeem's posts that he had sent the money but the transfer simply didn't go through due to some technical error by PS or some mistake by Nadeem. Not that he just left mid-transfer. :/

My main concern is that OP was very quick to call out scammer while it was just a few hours ago. Making a topic is not all bad but OP made it look like a clear cut case that Nadeem was running with the money. Apparently it wasn't as clear cut. Our integrity is pretty much all we have when it comes to poker communities like this. Once someone tarnishes someone's reputation by a topic like this, they'd better be sure about their shit.



Probably transfer limits ;o
Dunno, a email to PS would do.


ggplz   Sweden. Jan 10 2010 11:27. Posts 16784

ya, could def be the new transfer limits causing a problem

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jan 10 2010 11:36. Posts 9634

Naddeem i called you an asshole coz i thought ur a scammer coz of the facts that were presented and that s pretty much a normal reaction by me - noone likes scammers.However since this is all just one big fuck up by stars im sry that i offended you in any way


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jan 10 2010 11:40. Posts 8918

The benefit of the doubt was given by agreeing to send first and waiting for a few hours plus messaging PS support. After that its logical to raise a very likely possibility that it was a scam so that other people could be aware of a potential risk. If it was a misunderstanding or he had his account hacked or whatever is always an option and it sucks to be accused for something you didnt do but I dont think OP was wrong to make this thread.


lachlan   Australia. Jan 10 2010 11:57. Posts 6991

yea i think the EV of this is as follows:

75% that it's Pstars transfer limit, since its new

24% that its a hit-n-run scam

1% random pstars glitch

the transfer limit thing seems to be the most likely, since i think it's $200 for most people as the default unless u email them and ask for a raise.

but the fact that when he emailed Pstars about any pending transfers, they had nothing to report, that makes me a little worried. and also byrnesam's post about how nadeem was being over the top about defending his reputation, could be on to something

full ringLast edit: 10/01/2010 16:09

MadeInPolanD   Poland. Jan 10 2010 12:03. Posts 1383


  On January 10 2010 06:53 Nadeem wrote:
I just woke up. I have send printscreens to pooruser and Mudd10 that confirm i have sent the money.




1. Mudd10 upload the screens plz
2. why didn't Nadeem mail Stars? (he had time to write long posts lol)

Make it rain$$$ 

starfritz   Belgium. Jan 10 2010 12:32. Posts 124


  On January 10 2010 10:57 lachlan wrote:
yea i think the EV of this is as follows:
75% that it's Pstars transfer limit, since its new
240% that its a hit-n-run scam

the transfer limit thing seems to be the most likely



do you not understand EV ?

i bet you 100$ 1on1 nadeem has no bad intent and this will be cleared up fast, he might have screwed something up, most probably the communication

thinking of getting a coach. how much will they charge just to keep repeating the words, wtf why do u think he is bluffing. since i swear this will up my winrate 5x 

locoo   Peru. Jan 10 2010 12:45. Posts 4564

wtf of course its terrible to go to sleep or whatever before making sure that the money arrived to the other player, if you have to go soon they say something before starting the trade, cuz sometimes the sites do take a while to do the transfers

And even worse you just don't disapear without saying anything, you didn't just cost the guy these 500$ or whatever, but now hes tilted, maybe he didn't even played his own session because he needed that money or was too pissed to play etc

bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte 

terrybunny19240   United States. Jan 10 2010 13:15. Posts 13829

all we can do is waittttttttt


SPEWTARD   Peru. Jan 10 2010 13:24. Posts 4307


  On January 10 2010 12:15 Night2o1 wrote:
all we can do is hire a hitman

Rise and Shine 

patmcgroin   Afghanistan. Jan 10 2010 13:30. Posts 830

lol u got SCAMMED


Ygkjh   Hatchery. Jan 10 2010 13:31. Posts 240


  On January 10 2010 12:30 patmcgroin wrote:
lol u got SCAMMED


lol u are good at READING


Zalfor   United States. Jan 10 2010 14:28. Posts 2236

well this got more interesting didn't it?


lachlan   Australia. Jan 10 2010 14:47. Posts 6991


  On January 10 2010 11:32 starfritz wrote:
Show nested quote +



do you not understand EV ?

i bet you 100$ 1on1 nadeem has no bad intent and this will be cleared up fast, he might have screwed something up, most probably the communication


sorry that was meant to be 24%, anyway i think nadeem's innocent but we'll see soon enough

full ring 

PoorUser    United States. Jan 10 2010 15:48. Posts 7472


  On January 10 2010 06:53 Nadeem wrote:
I just woke up. I have send printscreens to pooruser and Mudd10 that confirm i have sent the money.


that wasn't the screenshot you sent me. you sent me a screenshot of pokerstars banning your account, and saying that they had given you partial access to it to cash it out. if you tried to transfer it instead, assuming that you did, it would probably raise flags and get held up.

Gambler Emeritus 

superfashion   United States. Jan 10 2010 16:02. Posts 918

the plot thickens

shoving here as a bluff at 50NL is like explaning calcalus to a 6 month old cat wtf are you thinking - TalentedTom 

 
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