coming to terms with being a losing player is hard

i cant beat 25nl either

Why are you 24'ing nl 25 instead of less tables at higher limits besides the obvious? Surely a player of your calibur can 18 table 50, or 12 table 100?

u've lost all structural framework in general cash concepts

find, or create, a framework based on the following principles:

a) play in position. if not in position, is it possible to find a way to get it on the next street? if it's going to be impossible to get position and you have to play the hand, focus on ending it. right the fuck now.

b) fuck preflop exploitation. i gave up on this a long time ago. is it really worth stressing over whether or not this nit in the bb folds 22% more often than he should, enabling me to gain like 0.08 bets with this deck open? an edge which, by the way, evaporates if the hand actually goes to flop cuz of rake at smaller stakes games. fuck that shit. the open range is the open range is the open range. memorize that shit.

c) value is value is value. do not limit yourself to strictly value-weighted ranges and frequencies. players can be manipulated in a variety of ways, mostly pertaining to their commitment thresholds pf and especially so on the turn. like, say some tagfish opens +1 and you flat ip. flop comes QQ3r. you have 55. he bets. fucking raise man. like 80% of his range is airball. take that shit, right now. from this firebase of effective flop offense, you can now make accurate determinations in the future as to where this specific player's flop thresholds are, and with that, you can project his turn valuations. being able to see in the future is a good skill to have.

judging from your prev blogpost you make terribad decisions, that may have something to do with why im guessing

edit: sawseech uses cool words

if you keep losing and losing... keep cutting down number of tables as welll then you will realise all your mistakes.

seriously, so many of you guys play too many tables then you complain of break even stretches and that you cant beat it.

ive played for for 3.5 years. for at least the first 1.5 years i did not play more than 4 tables ever... and that was 6max.

especially on 6max, dont think about number of hands think about the fundamentals and grill yourself for every bad call you make. if your still losing.. you are not learning from your mistakes. if you cant remember all your mistakes then type them up.

good advice here in the thread. I'd recommend just reading up/watching vids/talking over hands just try to get a new perspective, going over your stats (not just looking over general basic shit, go over the real nitty gritty details such as positional stats, hand stats, all that good shit. figure out where the money is being lost!!!), be brutally honest with yourself as this is key to any sort of improvement, cut down on # of tables to focus on getting your game better. This is prob a good place to start. Poker takes some work to get better at don't let the talented players fool you.

I'm with fazi here. If you are having issues with your game, cutting down tables to like 6 should be the first thing you do. What's the deal with all the grind hype at 24 tables? With VERY few exceptions, all those guys are breakeven to 0.5BB/100. Hell of a thing to aspire to...

Yup, moving down to money irrelevant money stakes (NL25 for me at the moment), cutting to 2-4 tables and explaining to myself why every action is better than the alternative reveals so much weird shit that you do when you have long losing stretches.

Once Aejones had said that the key to crash nl25/nl50 is to always go for the dead money.So imo cut down tables focus and steal as much as possible.Oh and run good

the fact of the matter is that playing nl25 and 6 tabling isnt acceptable as an hourly, i think that most of my mental block relies in the fact that i'm going to gamble and rush back to my old security and in doing so i eliminate all of the fruits of grinding by gambling and losing them.

plz bring me my fruits

Ye dead money is huge. Its not just preflop, but when you develop reads most fish (And regs too) betsize based on their hand strength. Check raising a 50VP fish when you have a read is a kind of dead money

And fuck hourly jsus christ.

You sacrifice hourly for a week at NL25 to double your hourly at NL50+ for months, thats clearly hugely +ev

Looking at hourly rate at happy meal money, lol

i thought u were like a high stakes player...

i used to beat nl200 for 4ptbb/100

now i lose @ nl25 @ -4ptbb/100

man you are saying retarded stuff like hourly. right now you hourly is negative.... so dont you think if you had 4 tables your hourly would be less negative lol...

dont think about hourly right now... think about improving your game and having an even bigger hourly in a few months (it will average out theoretically). you are think too much about now and not ahead. if you dont start winning now with whatever you have to do.. then you wont win in the future.

its like you have a mental block. if you dont cut down to 4-6 tables after i have said this and others agreed then i think you do not have basic intelligence. if you used to beat nl200 and you cant beat nl25... those are some serious issues for a full time player? is this your sole income? and if you are asking people for advice about how to beat nl25 then you might as well quit already because, we all go on bad runs and its just a trick on the mind, if you start losing for 2 months or more, just go back to basics. its a self learning process and you learn more about yourself as well.

i also need to quit intrinsically playing and start thoughtfully playing

Don't think you got the note, NL25 is impossible.
All jokes aside, cut down tables and you'll be more pot intensive.

stop tilting