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I think its interesting that he's joining wades team. He is going to be #2 guy. However many titles he'll have in his career wade will have 1 more.

On July 08 2010 21:56 Mig wrote: I dont understand all the hate lebron is getting whatsoever. Lebron took 30 million less to sign with the heat instead of the cavs. And now he has to lower his ego and share the spotlight with wade/bosh. He did all of this to win. In todays game everyone always bitches about nba players only caring about money and not trying hard enough to win being unselfish etc. Then lebron takes less to form a monster team and people are giving him shit over it.

Lebron is a fucking pussy. You dont join the best, you beat them. Like someone said earlier, Koby would never ever ever even consider joining forces with these guys in the manner they did. Fuck Lebron along with Wade Bosh and throw Riley in the pot also.

who the fack is koby

On July 08 2010 22:53 blackjacki2 wrote: In short, Lebron is going to be making HUNDREDS of millions over the next 5 years regardless of who he plays with, Taking a pay cut so his team makes the salary cap isn't a huge deal. The question is, when he is 60 years old and looking back on his career does he want $900 million in assets and 0 rings or $800 million in assets and 5 rings?

I totally agree with this these guys are all insanely rich from endorsements anyway whats the difference between a few million dollars? Yet despite this how often do you see top guys take less money? It virtually never happens largely out of ego everybody wants to be the top guy and make the most money so for lebron to do this even tho it wont effect his lifestyle at all I appreciate him putting his ego aside.

Karl Malone, Gary Payton. Pistons > Lakers.

Its a change from the AI-me first era though. Probably a more boring sport to watch though.

On July 08 2010 22:58 albonycee wrote: Lebron is a fucking pussy. You dont join the best, you beat them. Like someone said earlier, Koby would never ever ever even consider joining forces with these guys in the manner they did. Fuck Lebron along with Wade Bosh and throw Riley in the pot also.

This is retarded. Lebron played for 7 years for Cleveland with virtually no talent around him and single handedly carried them to 60 wins and to the finals one year. He tried to make it work there and they couldnt get shit in there to help him actually win. No matter how great of a player you are you have to have help to win you cant do it alone.

And the kobe comment is retarded after shaq left and kobe wasnt winning at all he was threatening to leave LA and demanding a trade if they couldnt bring someone in to help him. They brought in pau and everyone was happy again but you think if they had come to kobe and said hey we can trade and get wade in here he woulda been like nah fuck that wade is too good.

Its just a total joke people are burning lebron for leaving and then saying shit like look at kobe he didnt have to leave la yet he was incredibly close to leaving when the lakers went through a downswing for a couple years and only stayed because they got him help and they started winning.

im not faulting him for leaving Cleveland, it was obvious he was not in a winning environment, im faulting him for going to the heat out of all the teams in contention.
a player of his caliber should have the balls to take a team on his shoulders and be the centerpiece of a franchise. lebron neither has the balls nor wants the responsibility. as a result he seals once and for all the whos better Kobe or Lebron talk.
also my point about Kobe is he would never join another team in the fashion Lebron just did, i never claimed he would never accept a better player on HIS team. u cant deny there is a distinction between the two.

ur argument is mindnumbing albonycee

On July 08 2010 22:56 Maynard! wrote: I think its interesting that he's joining wades team. He is going to be #2 guy. However many titles he'll have in his career wade will have 1 more.

I'm preety sure it's unanomous that james is the best player on that team. Wade is prob gonna be team captain or w/e for politics sake similar to Peirce remaning captain of the Celtics, even though garnett was clearly the best player.

On that note, I still think Lakers are very strong, also boston added Jermain O-neil, a lot of super stacked teams next year. Also I think people are gonna realize how over rated amare stodomire is once he stops playing w/ nash

On July 08 2010 23:25 albonycee wrote: im not faulting him for leaving Cleveland, it was obvious he was not in a winning environment, im faulting him for going to the heat out of all the teams in contention. a player of his caliber should have the balls to take a team on his shoulders and be the centerpiece of a franchise. lebron neither has the balls nor wants the responsibility. as a result he seals once and for all the whos better Kobe or Lebron talk. also my point about Kobe is he would never join another team in the fashion Lebron just did, i never claimed he would never accept a better player on HIS team. u cant deny there is a distinction between the two.

Lol how can you even pretend to know what Kobe would do in the same situation?

the fact that Kobe has never put himself in this kind of situation is an indicator of his intentions imo.

whatever, Lebron is a coward thats all im saying.

On July 08 2010 23:25 albonycee wrote: im not faulting him for leaving Cleveland, it was obvious he was not in a winning environment, im faulting him for going to the heat out of all the teams in contention. a player of his caliber should have the balls to take a team on his shoulders and be the centerpiece of a franchise. lebron neither has the balls nor wants the responsibility. as a result he seals once and for all the whos better Kobe or Lebron talk. also my point about Kobe is he would never join another team in the fashion Lebron just did, i never claimed he would never accept a better player on HIS team. u cant deny there is a distinction between the two.

umm when you play for the lakers you are set for life.. it's like playing for the Yankess. They attract the best talent, it's the place to be... everyone wants to play there. No1 gives a shit about Cleveland, they had 7 years to do something w/ James, he carried them to 60 win seasons by himself, but he hasn't been able to carry them to a by himself. Kobe is just super lucky that he plays for the Lakers.. if James had the same oppurtunity that Kobe has (playing w/ shaq, now gasol) he would have a few rings himself

I don't necessarily agree with everything that albonycee but I did get similar vibes from watching Lebron's interview. I wouldn't say that he's a coward, but he made it very very very clear that the deciding factor in choosing Miami was that it would allow him to win ASAP and to keep winning.

I can't fault him for this since on paper for sure it looks like Miami with that all-star lineup is the most +EV for taking the championship. In order to attain immediate and more secure success, Lebron is trading the spotlight for a more shared glory, possibly even a lesser/second-place glory to Wade. I can't blame him for this... but you gotta admit that it is just not as... inspiring.

I guess, personally, I would've admired him a bit more if he had shown the balls and the cockiness/confidence to go to a team like the Knicks or Chicago - this would have been tantamount to saying that I CAN win championships, all I need is a good supporting cast, but this is MY legacy. Others may value his prioritizing of team work and shared glory and I respect that... but you know...

Who is the iconic hero of basketball? MJ. When you think of the Bulls, though you can't deny that Pippen, Grant, Paxson, Rodman, Longley, Kerr all were CRUCIAL elements, it was ultimately MJ's team. He was the special ingredient, the superstar, and the dynasty of 2 3-peats will forever go down as HIS legacy to Chicago. It makes for the truly glorious, dramatic moments in sports, like "They still have to go through Chicago" and the "flu game".... none of which would truly mean shit if Jordan had 2 other superstars covering for him on his down/off days.

Lebron is stepping away from that. He is saying I want to win so much and so assuredly that I will give up the mantle and the chance to be known as the greatest of all time just to ensure that I have the actual rings on my finger. Sure, it's the smart play. It's admirable within its own respective principles. But it's not the stuff that legends are made of.

I guess I'm just ultimately a romanticist when it comes to sports. When I saw Lebron with the Cavs, driving them to victory after victory, to the playoffs through sheer talent and willpower... I was wow'd. I thought that this guy has the talent and the drive to be even greater than Jordan, if only he had the right supporting cast. And now that he is going completely in the opposite direction, almost lowering himself and taking a shared leadership role with two other players just to hedge his bets for the championships... I feel like it's a waste.

However many he wins in Miami, Wade will always have 1 more. However much glory he wins in Miami, he will always (out of respect and room for the other two's egos) have to share the glory. No matter how amazingly well he plays, he will just be one among three. And there's something selfless about that... but it doesn't stir my heart like it wants to be stirred.

On July 09 2010 01:22 albonycee wrote: the fact that Kobe has never put himself in this kind of situation is an indicator of his intentions imo. whatever, Lebron is a coward thats all im saying.

Why would Kobe put himself in a position to leave a team that has given him 5 rings?

On July 08 2010 20:55 Pacifist wrote: bulls are not better despite what the media leads you to believe derrick rose is not that good and hasnt developed much since college

quit being a hater

On July 08 2010 21:20 royalsu wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2010 20:55 Pacifist wrote: bulls are not better despite what the media leads you to believe derrick rose is not that good and hasnt developed much since college derrick rose is 21, a lot of college kids who are entering are actually older than him. Year Team GP GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG 2008–09 Chicago 81 80 37.0 .475 .222 .788 3.9 6.3 .8 .2 16.8 2009–10 Chicago 78 78 36.8 .489 .267 .766 3.8 6.0 .7 .4 20.8 Once he develops 33% 3-point field goal range he will be unstoppable. Do you watch basketball?

First of all, him being 21 has nothing to do with anything as I was responding to a post stating that the bulls are CURRENTLY better than the heat.

Second of all, you post only stats and ask me if I watch basketball? I've watched a bunch of bulls games the past 2 seasons on leaguepass, and his defense is atrocious. It has not improved AT ALL since his first games as a rookie. That's half the game right there. If he puts up 20 points but gives up 20 to "lesser" guards, what does that make him?

His jumpshot is still very weak, never mind a 3 point shot. Those stats are extremely mediocre for someone who dominates the ball as much as Lebron or CP3.

Sure, most of this can be blamed on his horrible coach, but the fact remains that he has not developed nearly as much as he should have.

ROFL at the fail in this thread. bulls better then heat......? what bro. also lebron is the best player in the nba by a pretty decent margin. also lol at the kobe would never do something like that. if he wasnt getting the talent put around him he would just demand a trade.

Kelly Dwyer states it more eloquently:

Derrick Rose(notes), I'm sorry, did not develop under Vinny Del Negro, as some have reported. There is nothing in Rose's jump from Memphis to his first season to his second that cannot be explained by the expected growth of a sparkling talent like Derrick. Not the bogus All-Star berth, not the nonsense perpetuated by Ric Bucher. The guy still doesn't play a lick of defense, his jump shot is about the same as it was during his rookie year, and he still isn't a natural or confident passer.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball...y-have-settled-on-Vinn?urn=nba,254301

Sorry for derailing the thread but when someone states that the bulls are better than the new heat and I reply with wtf and suddenly people act like I'm the crazy one...

i've lived in chicago my whole life and even my hometown bias can't consider the bulls > heat right now. bulls are like 4-5th best team in the east maybe?