Coaching discussion on Myth - Page 19

On July 20 2010 20:49 n0rthf4ce wrote: This thread was not made to critique Corwin's life--he is trying to prove his poker coaching abilities. Honestly I find it pretty stupid that Corwin has to explain his life situation on a forum. I would do and have done the same thing for my family and friends, and there is no reason why he has to justify his actions. What he has posted is very private and I would urge him to take it down and would also urge Baal to edit out his comments, please. If a moderator could do the same I would also appreciate it. I'm trying to protect Corwin as a friend and I don't think him posting his life situation is beneficial to him or his family, nor is it at all necessary for this thread.

good point

did the editing

Nothing like moral lessons from the Rhino discount club.

On July 20 2010 21:01 Baal wrote: Nothing like moral lessons from the Rhino discount club.

lol

Baal in reference to Myth's personal life I know this may be really hard for you to believe as someone who always speaks their mind but on some subjects your opinion isn't needed .

I think Myth has now for the most part replied adequately. His PTR results with a solid sample posted towards the end of the month will qualify as acceptable evidence of his ability to still beat the online games.

I do still kind of side with Ket on his comments about the profit-sharing deals though. The previous thread had two key entry-level requirements. The player had to have an 8k bankroll and be playing at least 1/2. If the chosen students we're already slight winning players at .5/1 or 1/2 with 8k bankrolls it's unlikely that they would ever not make at least 40k over the course of two years. That would mean whether they ended up getting a lot out of your coaching or not they'd still probably make 40k and end up paying you 10k based mostly on their own previous abilities and work ethic.

So with that said there is one thing I'd like to know. How much flexibility was there in accepting students who didn't yet play 1/2?

about half my students can meet the requirements but are just beginning to take shots at $1/2, or have been breaking even at $1/2 for a long time. almost nobody who applies for my program is a solid winner at $1/2 at the time they apply. many of them feel like they're just breaking even, making rb, and going nowhere

and i don't take any % of their RB

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On July 20 2010 21:11 Bejamin1 wrote: I think Myth has now for the most part replied adequately. His PTR results with a solid sample posted towards the end of the month will qualify as acceptable evidence of his ability to still beat the online games.

? still beat the online games? have you read the thread or what? it's been brought out that he's never beat them consistently and he's a live player. it's also been brought out that he's never beat the games he advertised he beat for a year on CR, since he could have played those for only a month before the scandal.

and since when does playing for a month or two of almost exclusively rush poker consist of good enough evidence?

On July 20 2010 21:21 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2010 21:11 Bejamin1 wrote: I think Myth has now for the most part replied adequately. His PTR results with a solid sample posted towards the end of the month will qualify as acceptable evidence of his ability to still beat the online games. ? still beat the online games? have you read the thread or what? it's been brought out that he's never beat them consistently and he's a live player. it's also been brought out that he's never beat the games he advertised he beat for a year on CR, since he could have played those for only a month before the scandal. and since when does playing for a month or two of almost exclusively rush poker consist of good enough evidence?

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nice interpretation of things, sarah palin

loco, i beat midstakes all throughout 2007 and early 2008, and i was still beating 5/10 and 10/20 on stars/ftp for a short time after i lost my prima roll, but i did lose my mind in early 2008 as well and my game fell apart due to pretty constant tilt/spew. i shifted my focus to live cash and live tournaments and had a good year in 2008, and 2009 was fine but not as good. so now i'm taking online poker seriously again and playing mostly 2/4 - 5/10 and if the games look terrible then i just grind rush because it's retardedly soft and my hourly in it is comparable to my hourly at midstakes anyway

i don't know what i ever did to make you have such a violent personal vendetta against me, afaik i have never done you any wrong. just give me some time to put in some hands and i will keep you guys updated. ok?

I think this thread has run its course for now...

2c

This thread should run a spinoff where baal starts a blog and he picks a person he hates and rants about them. It would probably be one of my favorite blogs on the internet.

well, whatever you might've done in 2007 is completely irrelevant anyway... the games have changed so much since then, and you weren't coaching in 2007. i wouldn't of had a problem with you if you coached while having good results back then, seems fair that i do now, no?

do you feel like ket has a personal vendetta against you, too? i don't get it at all. you act like i should know some things about you that i don't. it's only logical that i'm having this position right now and there's nothing personal about it.

On July 20 2010 21:40 Maynard! wrote: This thread should run a spinoff where baal starts a blog and he picks a person he hates and rants about them. It would probably be one of my favorite blogs on the internet.

he would just pick Raszi over and over

On July 20 2010 21:40 Maynard! wrote: This thread should run a spinoff where baal starts a blog and he picks a person he hates and rants about them. It would probably be one of my favorite blogs on the internet.

is the internet really that big?

On July 20 2010 21:40 Maynard! wrote: This thread should run a spinoff where baal starts a blog and he picks a person he hates and rants about them. It would probably be one of my favorite blogs on the internet.

I hope he picks me!

It's pretty clear like I said earlier that no matter what Myth posts it won't be good enough for some.

Myth was an online cash grinder well before he transitioned to live play

Yeah loco I was going to respond to your comment but Myth already did it. I thought it was common knowledge that there was at least some point in time where Myth was beating 1/2 and higher. A time before PTR even existed.

Like he has said in this thread he hasn't played online much for the past 2-3 years. So I said that I think it's adequate that he's going to play a large sample size to show he is still capable of beating those online games. Unless your going to argue that there was never a time 3+ years ago where he beat 1/2...?

On July 20 2010 21:01 Baal wrote: Nothing like moral lessons from the Rhino discount club.

Next time your doing your rally races make to please fly off the cliff. If I ever end up anything like you I seriously would do this without hesitation.

All seriousness I like Myths videos alot and he articulates his thoughts a hell of alot better than most of the highstakes pros making videos imo. Whatever he wants to charge is up to him but the whole poker world is filled with jealous life cunts. Regardless of what you do someone always tries to bring you down even if your are extremely open about everything. To be honest if I was Myth I would not even really care to much about what people say in this thread. Seems like the main ones going after him are constantly emo and just sit and wait to attack people all day and try to throw their own life depression on other people, so fuck them imo. People like Ket and others similar I would actually respect but Baal and Loco hell fucking no.

Maybe this is way off and I'm just a low limit nit/donk/grinder so this will probably get ignored but that is my 2cents.

Loco FYI saying someone is going to provide evidence that they still beat the online games only implies that there was once a time when they did so. I believe that it is in fact common knowledge that Myth beat 1/2 years ago so my comment is accurate.

The only thing I would suggest is that the evidence appear on PTR. If you choose a format of poker not tracked by PTR and only show a database then it proves nothing. It's very easy to delete big losing hands in a database to make it look like your winning even if you're not. I believe this was brought up when Good2cu had that hour long documentary about his life and had those SNG stats showing. People claimed he deleted parts of his database to make himself look like a bigger winner than he was.

Also appreciate you giving a little more insight as to which students you choose. I still think it's tough for a player making 1pt/bb at 1/2 to not make 40k over a two year span but if you're helping these people become significant winning players at 1/2, 2/4, 3/6 then that's probably well worth what you're charging in profit sharing.