Coaching discussion on Myth - Page 23

Zep I believe you were the guy who was trolling on and on about supply and demand. Supply and demand is quite irrelevant when the issue being discussed is ethics. The ethical question being whether he was misrepresenting himself with his CR profile & his LP/CR reputation for increased personal gain. If someone lied to you that they were a great personal trainer who worked with many athletes at the professional level and used that lie to charge more for their training sessions that's not a supply and demand issue it's an ethics issue. You sir are the one who appears to have your head up your ass.

Loco your posts are a little bit longish but from what I gather you don't want Myth to be let off the hook too easily and wish for two things:
1. Myth apologize about misrepresenting himself as beating 5/10 and 10/20 online on his CR profile which he hadn't done for a long period of time.
2. Myth produce sufficient results that show he is still capable of beating the online games he is coaching.

AFAIK
1. Myth has updated the profile so it is no longer misleading. He has however not apologized for the previously misleading information (not 100% on this, honestly too lazy to check).
2. Myth is now grinding online in an effort to produce a sufficient number of hands at a couple different limits to show he is still capable of beating the online games.

i wish for him to take responsibility for his actions. if he does, it seems like an apology to the community is in order. whether he purposefully misrepresented himself or not shouldn't change anything. that's just me though. i'll take a wild guess and imagine we won't ever hear him say anything about other people playing on his accounts though.

obviously from here on if he wishes to keep his business clean and everybody happy about his services then he will do his best to show evidence that he's indeed the great poker player his reputation makes him out to be. it seems apparent that many people aren't willing to just take the word from his friends that he's good anymore, so it would be wiser for him. i personally don't care about that since the information is out now for people to choose if they wish to do business with him or not, and there's no more nebulous aura around the whole thing, so i'm satisfied either way.

this is like a 2+2 thread

Hai guise what's going on in dis thrad?

On July 21 2010 15:01 NMcNasty wrote: this is like a 2+2 thread

More like a random thread on /b/ @ 4chan. If I would have to start warning/banning for trolling/derailing and retarded posts in general, I would have to clear majority of posts from last 3 pages ;/

On July 21 2010 13:31 Rekrul wrote: baal is the coolest person ever, on and off the racetrack.

I concur

On July 21 2010 14:07 Bejamin1 wrote: Zep I believe you were the guy who was trolling on and on about supply and demand. Supply and demand is quite irrelevant when the issue being discussed is ethics. The ethical question being whether he was misrepresenting himself with his CR profile & his LP/CR reputation for increased personal gain. If someone lied to you that they were a great personal trainer who worked with many athletes at the professional level and used that lie to charge more for their training sessions that's not a supply and demand issue it's an ethics issue. You sir are the one who appears to have your head up your ass.

This

When I registered on LP I thought it wasn't like regular forums...that there wouldn't be drama and flaming...

I knew I wouldnt be disappointed

just woke up and this thread is still rockin'.
sweet. lol

On July 21 2010 10:46 Fayth wrote: for the record I've got 2 friends who have these long term coaching deal, they even made a business out of it, thing is they don't ask to be paid, they actually hire grinders, they coach them and they PAY THEM hourly so they can later on profit from their student's profit, dunno what's the percentage one of the coach is "thenutspt" on stars, and they don't ask for any hourly... basically the students get 18$/hour, they get coached by good players and they're given a bankroll to start with

can you get me in touch with one of these guys?

On July 21 2010 15:15 TalentedTom wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2010 13:31 Rekrul wrote: baal is the coolest person ever, on and off the racetrack. I concur

me 3

On July 21 2010 14:07 Bejamin1 wrote: Zep I believe you were the guy who was trolling on and on about supply and demand. Supply and demand is quite irrelevant when the issue being discussed is ethics. The ethical question being whether he was misrepresenting himself with his CR profile & his LP/CR reputation for increased personal gain. If someone lied to you that they were a great personal trainer who worked with many athletes at the professional level and used that lie to charge more for their training sessions that's not a supply and demand issue it's an ethics issue. You sir are the one who appears to have your head up your ass. Loco your posts are a little bit longish but from what I gather you don't want Myth to be let off the hook too easily and wish for two things: 1. Myth apologize about misrepresenting himself as beating 5/10 and 10/20 online on his CR profile which he hadn't done for a long period of time. 2. Myth produce sufficient results that show he is still capable of beating the online games he is coaching. AFAIK 1. Myth has updated the profile so it is no longer misleading. He has however not apologized for the previously misleading information (not 100% on this, honestly too lazy to check). 2. Myth is now grinding online in an effort to produce a sufficient number of hands at a couple different limits to show he is still capable of beating the online games.

Two Points:
The ethical question that needs to be answered (it's only been addressed by a handful of people over the last 20+ pages) is, why does his PTR seem to be an exact contradiction of the HEM stats he has shown??? Until we have a clear answer to this, it's actually ironically unethical to leap to the conclusions 90% of you have made.

And earlier I wasn't trolling. It seems literary no one has an idea about how any company works within the United States. I doubt 25% of people on LP have ever completed even the most basic micro and macro economic courses at a university level. If you consider it to be unethical to state facts from the past that might not hold true in the present to increase supply, demand, or price, then why isn't there an unethical thread debating why every American business is corrupt? That's the part that really bothers me about all of this. You get a huge dick over a business that can be in no ways affecting your life negatively, yet no one on here is screaming for the end of BP. No one is calling for an end to banks that have to fuck people over in order to succeed. I understand this is a poker forum, but those are much more likely to directly affect your life than Myth coaching. And if Myth is a losing grinder, shouldn't all grinders on here be like, oh my life may actually benefit from him coaching. Seriously, the amount of irrationality on this thread is mind boggling.

On July 21 2010 17:24 Zep wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2010 14:07 Bejamin1 wrote: Zep I believe you were the guy who was trolling on and on about supply and demand. Supply and demand is quite irrelevant when the issue being discussed is ethics. The ethical question being whether he was misrepresenting himself with his CR profile & his LP/CR reputation for increased personal gain. If someone lied to you that they were a great personal trainer who worked with many athletes at the professional level and used that lie to charge more for their training sessions that's not a supply and demand issue it's an ethics issue. You sir are the one who appears to have your head up your ass. Loco your posts are a little bit longish but from what I gather you don't want Myth to be let off the hook too easily and wish for two things: 1. Myth apologize about misrepresenting himself as beating 5/10 and 10/20 online on his CR profile which he hadn't done for a long period of time. 2. Myth produce sufficient results that show he is still capable of beating the online games he is coaching. AFAIK 1. Myth has updated the profile so it is no longer misleading. He has however not apologized for the previously misleading information (not 100% on this, honestly too lazy to check). 2. Myth is now grinding online in an effort to produce a sufficient number of hands at a couple different limits to show he is still capable of beating the online games. Two Points: The ethical question that needs to be answered (it's only been addressed by a handful of people over the last 20+ pages) is, why does his PTR seem to be an exact contradiction of the HEM stats he has shown??? Until we have a clear answer to this, it's actually ironically unethical to leap to the conclusions 90% of you have made. And earlier I wasn't trolling. It seems literary no one has an idea about how any company works within the United States. I doubt 25% of people on LP have ever completed even the most basic micro and macro economic courses at a university level. If you consider it to be unethical to state facts from the past that might not hold true in the present to increase supply, demand, or price, then why isn't there an unethical thread debating why every American business is corrupt? That's the part that really bothers me about all of this. You get a huge dick over a business that can be in no ways affecting your life negatively, yet no one on here is screaming for the end of BP. No one is calling for an end to banks that have to fuck people over in order to succeed. I understand this is a poker forum, but those are much more likely to directly affect your life than Myth coaching. And if Myth is a losing grinder, shouldn't all grinders on here be like, oh my life may actually benefit from him coaching. Seriously, the amount of irrationality on this thread is mind boggling.

hahaha zep-trolled

edit: nvm it was adressed sort of.

goddamn Zep thats some quality trolling, Donald will be proud

It needs to be established exactly what is going on before any more acquisitions continue. Either he is sharing his account and showing positive results in HEM with his share of positive results and PTR is obviously showing everyone else's loses. OR he is not qualified to be coaching people and needs to show positive results soon. otherwise he will need to be identified as a scammer.

i just burped after reading

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On July 21 2010 19:52 Zep wrote: It needs to be established exactly what is going on before any more acquisitions continue. Either he is sharing his account and showing positive results in HEM with his share of positive results and PTR is obviously showing everyone else's loses. OR he is not qualified to be coaching people and needs to show positive results soon. otherwise he will need to be identified as a scammer.

but what about the supply and demand