Life is Loco... - Page 4

Okay then Loco lol...

1. So why make a blog about it? How is trying to humiliate and ostracize a valuable poker mind from the community a good thing? Seems like you only did it to get attention.

2. You're basically denying the existence of running bad based on your worldview. You're wrong. Mathematics proves that you're wrong. Luck and variance affect a players results significantly even over the long-term. Even in 300,000 hands you might play only 10,000 pots where you invest 50bb's or more. That means you're really only dealing with 10,000 simulations of the situation where luck plays a huge role not 300,000. That's a relatively small sample size. It'd be difficult to play enough hands in ones life to actually see luck "balance out" for everyone. Some people run better in those big situations than others. Lots of people are one, two, or more standard deviations away from the mean in their large pots over their lifetime. Sorry Loco but running bad exists. The fact that you're in denial about it and have a delusional opinion on the matter based on your worldview is moot.

hahahha longple

listened to the song 3 times now, its addicting

lol alienating a good poker mind? lololol

On July 25 2010 21:58 Baal wrote: lol alienating a good poker mind? lololol

He's a winning player at 1/2 and 2/4 NLHU. I think that saying he has a good poker mind is a fair statement. What is your justification for stating otherwise? My opinion is based on the fact that he's a successful player who I know has put a good amount of time into understanding the game. Your opinion is based on a personal bias against him, you lose Baal.

my 2009. pretty good example of runbad over a large sample size.


lots of haters and shit in here but whatever

cliffs?

Is this just another thread with loco on his crusade to make everyone see the world the way he sees it?

Yes SakiSaki. That would be it exactly. I'll cross-post my final response from the other blog to this one. Response below.

The worst thing about all this is that Loco sits on his high horse being critical of Newblish for something he probably does quite regularly himself. It just drives him crazy that any winning player could ever have something to complain about. It makes him so angry that a guy who has all of 426 posts in 3+ years of having membership on this site could complain once and a while. Those blogs he posts once every 3+ months and the odd hand history with accompanying comment must really get his panties in a knot, so much so he decided to write a hate filled blog about this villain living in our midst! How did the readers of LP not notice these random hand history posts that nobody else but Loco decided to read. He's making sure the poker community is protected by making certain no obscure hand history comment goes unread or unchallenged for it's validity!

I'd love to put a camcorder in your room Loco. I'd love to see what it looks like when you have a session where some ultimate fish is up 4-5 buy-ins on you purely because they've run sick good. I'm so sure you never express any feelings of frustration or anger when this happens. You probably beat yourself with a little whip exclaiming "Bad Loco! Bad! Why would you allow yourself to get irrationally angry at bad luck in poker! This is not productive!" I'm glad we have you here Loco to tell us what is and isn't acceptable behavior. I don't know what we'd all do without your moral compass protecting us from bad behaviors posted once in a blue moon. I'll make sure to put the word out. Newblish needs a time-out.

Our hero "El Loco Opinionato" has once again saved the day with his unsolicited advice!

I thought everyone already knew that Loco was one of the saddest cunts on here? Wait gonna spend an hour making a blog on how sad he is...

ahahaha

On July 25 2010 23:10 Bejamin1 wrote: You probably beat yourself with a little whip exclaiming "Bad Loco! Bad! Why would you allow yourself to get irrationally angry at bad luck in poker! This is not productive!"

ROFL maybe thats cuz im drunk as fuck but this had me laughin 10 good seconds

I don't get how you guys spend hours arguing over the validity of someone else's whining about bad beats. My mind is like imploding on itself atm.

On July 25 2010 23:10 Bejamin1 wrote: You probably beat yourself with a little whip exclaiming "Bad Loco! Bad! Why would you allow yourself to get irrationally angry at bad luck in poker! This is not productive!"

Sigh... It hasn't occured to you that if I don't believe in "running bad" I don't believe in bad luck either? -_-

I dont get angry about poker anymore... You're free to believe everybody to be as weak-minded as you and Newblish...

Its hard to escape the condescension when you make such ridiculous claims about me... No matter how much of a dick I was to your friend, you should realize that I am in a totally different class as a player than both you guys. I think its reasonable for you to hate my guts and all but it doesnt make any sense to disrespect my skills at a game where you yourself dont consider yourself to be an expert...

Let me get this straight,

You said in your blog that - "While there are people who genuinely run like shit at this game, and I mean like real shit, for the longest periods of time, there are others who are delusional"

and

"They don't understand how lucky they are to live where they live, in the time where they live."

Despite your recent quote: "Sigh... It hasn't occured to you that if I don't believe in "running bad" I don't believe in bad luck either? -_- "

and: "I first and foremost believe there isn't such a thing as running bad. Nothing should be surprising out of life. Everything that happens to a person has been a possibility. It's been nature doing its own thing, in other words it is equity (sounds familiar?), and it's only ever bizarre to be surprised or upset about it."

So basically you're nothing but a walking/talking machine of contradictions. First you admit that people actually can run bad(or like shit as you stated) over long periods of time in your first quote, but then you somehow write that you dont believe bad luck or running bad exists at all? Secondly you write that we should "understand" how "lucky" we are to be born in this great country and time? I thought that "nothing should be surprising out of life"? I thought that we are supposed to just take things for what they are and realize that it was just "life equity" and just nature doing its thing?

You are absolutely fucking ridiculous. You seem to just spew out random shit with the ultimate goal of just pissing people off and arguing just for the sake of arguing. Like i still just cant wrap my head around this, you have 16,733 posts on this site of which most if not all of them are just arguing/writing your opinion on topics that you 1. contradict yourself on repeatedly. 2. Argue just for the sake or arguing. 3. Waste your own time. I have no clue why i even bothered to write this response because you're like an "immovable object" so to speak, that will not budge or ever admit he could be wrong. All this has ended up doing is make you look like an idiot. FINALLY after really paying attention to any of your arguments, all that people can see are glaring contradictions and shit that ultimately is hypocritical to say the very least. Congratulations.

Seriously,

GET
A
LIFE.

The only reason why I made mention of these things is because they are inevitable for the point that I was influenced/pushed in making. The only way I would truly be contradicting myself is if that initial blog post was 100% my own doing and that I was clear those were my beliefs there. Rather, I am just aware that there is no avoiding the talk of luck in poker, no matter how I don't believe in it, and writing a philosophical essay initially would not have accomplished anything of what was desired by both the external party and myself. So when I said that there were people who truly ran like shit at poker, I meant that they ran extremely below EV for longest periods of time, which is what you were -- I believe unjustifiably -- complaining about (since you're never doing anything wrong apparently... just kidding but still -_-) and how I believe the term is the most used in poker, but you should know as well as I do that EV isn't everything in poker... far from it. I'm not the first one to believe running bad to be a myth, and that there's only playing your hands optimally and putting your money in as a favorite repeatedly that counts. Emotions only get in the way of this so I propose an autonomous will, which inherently rejects luck.

This is an extremely complex subject to get into if I want you to try and understand my beliefs towards luck. I doubt you do, but I'll still clarify. The "life equity" is not applied where your own rights have been taken from you. Yes, I believe I am indefinitely more lucky than the person who was born into poverty and couldn't do jack shit about it because of the current systems of government, and yes I consider myself indefinitely more lucky than a person who survived the horrors of a Nazi concentration camp. But if I were to bubble the money in a poker tournament, or if I was to get 2 out'd for 500bb against a fish then I don't believe luck applies, only equity, and for this same reason I'm not surprised that rain falls from the sky and I don't yell at it because it has wet me. For this same reason again I'm not going to be surprised whenever something I might perceive to be negative happens to me in poker, because it is the natural order of things for which I have no control over and therefore no reason to worry about. I might be making things very complicated but it's the same thing any good poker player is going to tell you, the good comes with the bad and it's only our interpretations of it that make it difficult to deal with.

So if I am ever angry in poker, it's always going to be an anger directed towards myself because I believe I could've done better. This kind of anger can be beneficial and is not nearly as long-lasting and damaging as the kind of anger you're expressing and are going to keep having because you cannot for the hell of you direct it towards yourself, you (evidently) always need a source to blame all your grief on when you believe you're being unlucky.


I am indeed an immovable object, not because I cannot be proven wrong though, but rather because I hold most opinions to be very unimportant/uneducated. So don't waste your time with insults and childish, insecurities exhibiting statements like "get a life". Your whole last paragraph is one big insecurity statement obvious to anyone who understands the basics of psychology. If you've been here a long enough time you should know that I've admitted to being wrong, and the very fact that I don't get into arguments with Baal and that we are friends prove that we can both admit being wrong. We have had to, since we clashed for a long time on LP and we seemed to be -- and perhaps were -- the greatest rivals on here, and are now good friends.


Lastly, and unrelated to your last message, there's been some talk of me "pushing my views" or "telling people how they should live" but my issue (the one that gets to me) with you and other people is never that they don't share my perspective on things, but that they are (or at the very least seem to be) oblivious to how either a) lucky they were initially in life or b) ungrateful/cowardly they currently are when facing adversity. These are the things that set me off because it seems as though we aren't sharing the same reality. And perhaps we aren't...

On July 25 2010 21:48 longple wrote: listened to the song 3 times now, its addicting

omg its sooo good especially at the end when the epic solo
when the horse drowns sad memories

wow crazy blog. interesting that benjamin was so anti a blog bashing on a person. then made one bashing on loco. i am with loco that you should not complain on forums as it is pointless. focusing on how unlucky you thought you were is not really productive.