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Eluflop   Estonia. Dec 25 2010 20:26. Posts 3835 | | |
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locoo   Peru. Dec 25 2010 20:37. Posts 4561 | | |
i only have a problem with ratholing and hit n running, not shortstacking, so congrats man! |
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Maynard!   United States. Dec 25 2010 20:41. Posts 4453 | | |
| On December 25 2010 19:15 Pillars wrote:
Money is just a means to an end though, eh? Spending your time doing things you value, with people you value...those seem like more basic goals [and have more inherent value than the acquisition of $$$.]
But yes, money is a pretty useful resource, and as you say the window of profitability of poker continues to close. It's the *only* reason I've played as much as I have over the past few years. |
Money is a means to an end yes. The eventual end being more free-time to pursue what you truly enjoy without the stress of not freezing to death or starving. Money in itself for a shinier gadget is not all that important. But without a considerable amount of money you are unable to do things you value. Without money you work to feed and clothe yourself under the constant stress of being a few months away from homelessness. Having a home and food are more basic goals than having quality leisure time with people you care about.
That is what makes it so important for us now to accumulate while we can. To avoid flipping burgers 60 hours a week at 45 just to survive. So in those terms money is the most important thing ATM. |
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Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. | Last edit: 25/12/2010 20:43 |
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tomson   Poland. Dec 25 2010 20:54. Posts 1982 | | |
Very impressive results!
Do you game select hard (only sitting at tables with at least 1 fish) or are you pretty liberal about it (bearing in mind you play 24 tables)? |
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vasoline73   United States. Dec 25 2010 21:32. Posts 810 | | |
Sick inspiration. Nicely done man. |
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djforever   Canada. Dec 25 2010 21:43. Posts 1510 | | |
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Pillars   United States. Dec 25 2010 21:46. Posts 1049 | | |
| On December 25 2010 19:25 PanoRaMa wrote:
correct me if i'm wrong, but as a pro sser who clearly makes a lot, do you see every session as almost printing money? Is it like "well i have 2 hours of downtime, i'll just sit down and make like ~800 on avg"? I ask because the way I view my sessions is that each session is a pretty big gamble and there's an easy chance for me to lose a lot and ruin my day, or even if i win it'd be a bit stressful what with the effort/mental exercising involved. I was envisioning top ssers as people who just like log on, make quick mental decisions and slowly watch the br increase. |
I think I've always considered playing poker as printing money - either playing LHE, full-stacking NLHE or short-stacking NLHE. Each of these games have different levels of volatility, but I try [as best as I can, anyway] to maintain a focus on the long-term. I had a -12k day a couple months ago playing 5/10 and 10/20, and a 300k hand break-even stretch earlier in the year...so there's certainly no guarantee of short-term success even when short-stacking. As long as you maintain a big enough bankroll and you're actually a winner at the games you play you shouldn't have to worry about the results of any given session.
That said, playing 20BB poker *is* much less stressful, the biggest reason being that it's a much simpler game than 100BB poker [obviously.]
| On December 25 2010 19:41 Maynard! wrote:
Money is a means to an end yes. The eventual end being more free-time to pursue what you truly enjoy without the stress of not freezing to death or starving. Money in itself for a shinier gadget is not all that important. But without a considerable amount of money you are unable to do things you value. Without money you work to feed and clothe yourself under the constant stress of being a few months away from homelessness. Having a home and food are more basic goals than having quality leisure time with people you care about.
That is what makes it so important for us now to accumulate while we can. To avoid flipping burgers 60 hours a week at 45 just to survive. So in those terms money is the most important thing ATM. |
Fair enough. I guess the question for me is how long do I keep sacrificing time in the short term for my long term well-being [especially given that the long-term is somewhat hypothetical to begin with?] For the past four years it's been evident to me that I do not enjoy playing poker. Not only do I dislike playing the game when at the tables, I've found that it adversely affects my overall psychological health. We only have one life, yo [at least according to Eminem, who is my go-to expert on metaphysics] and I want to minimize the amount of time I have to give away...
...but, yes, poker is extremely profitable right now, it secures all of my basic needs, and it's unclear how long it will remain profitable. These are strong incentives to continue grinding.
| On December 25 2010 19:54 tomson wrote:
Do you game select hard (only sitting at tables with at least 1 fish) or are you pretty liberal about it (bearing in mind you play 24 tables)? |
Right now I'll play at 90% of the 20-50BB tables that run at 3/6 and 5/10. I could probably increase my hourly if I dropped the worst 10-20% of these tables for the juiciest ones at 2/4, but I'm not a fan of mixing across three stakes and doing that amount of table selection when playing 24 tables takes up a sizable amount of mental energy [as you alluded to.] I have a feeling I'll be doing more table selection in the coming year, though, as the games continue to get harder. |
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PanoRaMa   United States. Dec 26 2010 00:14. Posts 1655 | | |
Thanks for the response. Some more questions bc i'm curious:
1. If you were to play 5k hands of multitable 100bb starting stack HU vs 1. a top mid stakes 6max player, 2. a top mid stakes FR player (separating the two in case there's a difference) what do you think your end winrate might be? Assuming neither of you are particularly well-versed in hu or have prepared but were told to play each other right now.
2. Do you play a lot of MTTs? Do you think your SSing gives you a significant edge over most MTT regulars in shorter-stacked scenarios or do you think the skill cap is relatively too low in that specific regard where it doesn't really matter (i.e. you just become a "good mtt" player equivalent)?
3. You get a seat at a 25/50 table with Scout, and 7 of the best 25/50 regs from FTP/PS. You have direct position on scout, and scout has 500bbs. How many bbs do you sit with?
You should start a Well in the main poker forum imo |
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| On December 25 2010 18:20 Maynard! wrote:
Nothing has more intrinsic value than cold hard cash. The gravy train won't last forever. Cash in while you can.
Anyway GJ thats pretty sweet. Enjoy the 5x multiplier in 2011. |
Sorry Maynard gona have to nit this one up... USD actually has 0 intrinsic value all fiat currency's have 0 in intrinsic value |
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Dec 26 2010 03:28. Posts 6374 | | |
| On December 25 2010 17:41 Pillars wrote:
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nolan   Ireland. Dec 26 2010 09:22. Posts 6205 | | |
congrats, very sick year.
see you at pca maybe. just landed in boston, everywhere i go there is a blizzard (: |
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Nice year there Mr Pillars!
Maynard :O
-Kain |
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Zuries   United Kingdom. Dec 31 2010 19:07. Posts 120 | | |
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BigRed0000   United States. Dec 31 2010 19:15. Posts 3554 | | |
Mad respect man. Sick year :-) |
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