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exalted   United States. Jan 07 2011 00:55. Posts 2918 | | |
Not necessarily in order of importance, but they all are pretty tilting:
1. People with breakeven EVs complaining about variance. If you have a breakeven EV, you are effectively flipping coins, and it should be obvious that you can easily get into a bad swing. There is a DIRECT CORRELATION between your winrate and variance. The higher your winrate, the lower variance you will have. Sound about right? Well it goes the other way too, fuckface. Stop posting 10 buyin "downswings" when your EV is neutral-negative. IMO this is probably my hugest complaint because sooo many people do it and even moreee people don't care to read it.
Sidenote: Of course, EV doesn't "show" everything, but is generally accepted as the vehicle with which one can complain about their luck. Replying and saying, "well, I got fucking coolered man and they got there on the river etc." just shows a complete ignorance of variance.
2. Posting bad beats. An example would be K40Cheddar. We've all gotten one outed before, and we don't particularly care about yours, because it wasn't ours. We only care about our own beats. Therefore, a nice adjustment to make is to keep it to yourself, because only you truly understand and care about how savage it was. Would be nice to have less litter in the "Hands" section although this may just be a pipedream.
3. Posting that "microstakes" is super duper easy. It's actually not for so many reasons, which I'll try to cover here:
a. There are so many breakeven nits that are trying to grind out bonuses. It is impossible to get a significant edge over them (especially as a beginning player), so your only comfort is that they are in the long term, also breakeven.
b. Highest % of rake, especially for people who are trying to do it at Pokerstars. This should be obvious, but I found Maynard's "low-midstakes black hole" blog extremely enlightening. I therefore immediately started staking my GF in higher games.
c. Not having resources that cost money. This can mean access to coaching, HEM or training videos. When people are so polarized between "nit-bonus hunter" and "casual gambler", new grinders have a choice. Concentrate on finding out who is who (low # of tables, higher winrate but still grinding out White Castle burgers), or, have a high # of tables, generally don't give a shit, and have a breakeven EV and high variance.
Obviously, I would be a dumbass if I said microstakes were "hard", being a NL400 reg. But I'm pretty sure at any given time there are plenty of harder micro tables than tables 10 times the stakes. So basically, through writing this blog, I've found out that I actually pity the microstake player, as they are the ones with the breakeven EV and thus complain about their "downswing".
The way to our hearts is not through bitching and posting bad beats in blogs and hands. The one exception would be Nighto11, who is so fucking annoying and helpless with his bitching that you can't help but try to help him. Same goes for NewbSaibot - there's a reason why they're where they are. Same goes for Wobbly, who didn't bitch, worked his ass off, and now laughs at my "brag posts" of 5k months.
Ask real questions and stay honest about your abilities. Be willing to invest in yourself to become better. Ok that's it.
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exalted   United States. Jan 07 2011 01:05. Posts 2918 | | |
To elucidate, if I lost my entire bankroll and had to start again, I would use whatever resources available to skip microstakes and go to NL50+. This is not feasible for most because I already have the experience (read: tilt control) and play ability, but microstakes is a waste of time, both in learning and profit made. If I were to teach someone from scratch, I would only throw them in microstakes long enough so that they fully grasp the concepts of the game, then quickly move them up (even if he/she were just still learning). If you were to teach someone powerful poker, would you have them grind 100k hands of nl10/25? Are you someone powerful?
If I lost my bankroll AND my poker ability, I would leave poker. That's my 2 cents to answer the "hi I'm new to poker what can I do to master it?" posts. |
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YoMeR   United States. Jan 07 2011 01:39. Posts 12438 | | |
lol what's with the chip on your shoulder.
sometimes posting that brutal 2 outer for a 500 bb pot in the hands section is a much better alternative than punting away another couple stacks due to tilt as a result of the hand.
Although I do agree with you about the whine blogs, some people post wayyy too much whine about minimal downswings and haven't experienced true hell yet. Although I'm guilty of posting whine blogs myself (was pretty dark times for me). But hell better to do that then go life tilt hardcore.
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dryath   Australia. Jan 07 2011 02:02. Posts 1317 | | |
1. agree
2. is fine? as long as its not the only hands u post
3. what a joke. micros are lol easy, and to say otherwise is retarded |
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KeanuReaver   United States. Jan 07 2011 02:31. Posts 2022 | | |
i don't think 1 is correct, higher winrate does not = lower variance. over the course of 100k hands running at 1ptbb/100 when you should be running at 3ptbb/100 is technically no different than running at -2ptbb/100 instead of breakeven. one just feels a whole hell of a lot worse than the other |
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KeanuReaver   United States. Jan 07 2011 02:32. Posts 2022 | | |
but entirely agreed on #3, NL25 is really a blackhole because rake absolutely kills you, especially if you're new and don't have good rakeback or aren't a very good player yet. |
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and the endurance required for MMA, which has actions like punching and kicking bone and muscle with 1000-2500 PSI. - Taco | |
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edzwoo   United States. Jan 07 2011 03:23. Posts 5911 | | |
Well the variance itself will be mostly consistent based on your playstyle, but relative to the amount you win it's much smaller. |
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joLin   United States. Jan 07 2011 04:56. Posts 3818 | | |
how about ppl who are winners in poker but post blogs begging for free coaching |
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By.Elite   Canada. Jan 07 2011 06:01. Posts 25 | | |
If you think micros should ke skipped, where do you think one should start ? NL50, NL100, NL200 ? As high as possible ? |
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johnmagi   Norway. Jan 07 2011 06:14. Posts 1424 | | |
| On January 07 2011 05:01 By.Elite wrote:
If you think micros should ke skipped, where do you think one should start ? NL50, NL100, NL200 ? As high as possible ? |
Go from NL 5k and take it from there. |
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By.Elite   Canada. Jan 07 2011 06:20. Posts 25 | | |
Just being curious... If he thinks there's no real learning to be done at NL25 then where does the learning starts ? |
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whamm!   Albania. Jan 07 2011 08:02. Posts 11625 | | |
micros are still easy, its the rake thats a motherfucker |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jan 07 2011 09:06. Posts 8649 | | |
my problem with this post is that there's a small handful of mid-high stakes regs like talentedtom and heroes)engage who regularly give good advice. so this rant coming from mr. "i can give you good answers to these questions for x amount of $$" seems a little silly. i guess it's your perogative to post what you want in your blog, but that's my opinion. |
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NewbSaibot   United States. Jan 07 2011 09:48. Posts 4946 | | |
I at least try to make my bitching interesting.
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Holly23   United States. Jan 07 2011 12:08. Posts 150 | | |
wow, do you feel cool now creating this blog? Lol, at trying to go out your way to look for a pat on the back. |
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NewbSaibot   United States. Jan 07 2011 12:23. Posts 4946 | | |
| On January 06 2011 23:55 exalted wrote:
Obviously, I would be a dumbass if I said microstakes were "hard", being a NL400 reg. |
Thinly veiled brag? |
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I guess its already well known but you're a massive cunt |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jan 07 2011 18:09. Posts 15163 | | |
I don't get where is all the hate coming from?
Micros are easy if you are not a micro player,80% of players are regs at NL50 100bb 6Max tables at Stars and you need to beat them for 4bb/100 to just break even. Its easy if you drop down guys, but I am one of them with similar flaws and it really isn't that easy. |
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exalted   United States. Jan 07 2011 20:28. Posts 2918 | | |
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barbieman   Sweden. Jan 08 2011 07:11. Posts 2132 | | |
just so you know, i find blogs complaining about people's run bad blogs far more annoying than their blogs. |
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