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Yea fuck. I still hope the reem can compete.

seems unfair to let him fight, i mean others might have taken roids too but no one in the heavyweight category seems close to his muscle size

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so fucking shitty

On April 04 2012 20:58 Raidern wrote: Man I'm just sad he got caught and the fight might be canceled because of that. I would be very surprised if the other big guys in the division didn't use roids

I wouldn't. That's like being suprised that most GMs don't use maphacks/macros.
People are still somewhat decent.

On April 04 2012 18:43 PuertoRican wrote: and Fedor dodged him twice.

I remember Fedor not wanting to fight Rheem unless he adhered to Olympic level steroid testing. You can't really call it a dodge at this point.

On April 05 2012 15:33 SfydjkLm wrote: Show nested quote + On April 04 2012 20:58 Raidern wrote: Man I'm just sad he got caught and the fight might be canceled because of that. I would be very surprised if the other big guys in the division didn't use roids I wouldn't. That's like being suprised that most GMs don't use maphacks/macros. People are still somewhat decent.

Wtf plz shut up if u have no idea what u talking about ...

99,9 % of all professinal TOP 10 MMA athletes in all weightclasses use illegal substances during their prefight training camp.
U have no idea how much and how hard those guys train.
human body cant regenerate fast enough to accomplish the volume and intensity those guys go

The difference is that some cheat just a little bit while others cheat massive.
But nobody is completely clean !

On April 05 2012 16:07 PplusAD wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2012 15:33 SfydjkLm wrote:   On April 04 2012 20:58 Raidern wrote: Man I'm just sad he got caught and the fight might be canceled because of that. I would be very surprised if the other big guys in the division didn't use roids I wouldn't. That's like being suprised that most GMs don't use maphacks/macros. People are still somewhat decent. Wtf plz shut up if u have no idea what u talking about ... 99,9 % of all professinal TOP 10 MMA athletes in all weightclasses use illegal substances during their prefight training camp. U have no idea how much and how hard those guys train. human body cant regenerate fast enough to accomplish the volume and intensity those guys go The difference is that some cheat just a little bit while others cheat massive. But nobody is completely clean !

And what is, dare i wonder, is the source of that information?
even if you were the CEO of a pro managing company your knowledge would still be miniscule and only relate to the fighters directly under your supervision who are influenced by your policies.
But as I see that you arent that, hearsay counts for even less.

And i'm sure doing the same excessive 300 times a minute for 12 hours a day is totally less stressful.
Learn some manners and some humility, son.

common knowledge and he is probably the guy most involved in MMA in the whole site.

Nobody is talking about fairness, we are sad and bitching because it would have been an amazing fight and some of us tought we had very profitable bets

On April 05 2012 16:16 SfydjkLm wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2012 16:07 PplusAD wrote:   On April 05 2012 15:33 SfydjkLm wrote:   On April 04 2012 20:58 Raidern wrote: Man I'm just sad he got caught and the fight might be canceled because of that. I would be very surprised if the other big guys in the division didn't use roids I wouldn't. That's like being suprised that most GMs don't use maphacks/macros. People are still somewhat decent. Wtf plz shut up if u have no idea what u talking about ... 99,9 % of all professinal TOP 10 MMA athletes in all weightclasses use illegal substances during their prefight training camp. U have no idea how much and how hard those guys train. human body cant regenerate fast enough to accomplish the volume and intensity those guys go The difference is that some cheat just a little bit while others cheat massive. But nobody is completely clean ! And what is, dare i wonder, is the source of that information? even if you were the CEO of a pro managing company your knowledge would still be miniscule and only relate to the fighters directly under your supervision who are influenced by your policies. But as I see that you arent that, hearsay counts for even less. And i'm sure doing the same excessive 300 times a minute for 12 hours a day is totally less stressful. Learn some manners and some humility, son.

not sure if trolling or not

On April 05 2012 16:28 Baalim wrote: common knowledge and he is probably the guy most involved in MMA in the whole site. Nobody is talking about fairness, we are sad and bitching because it would have been an amazing fight and some of us tought we had very profitable bets

common knowledge indeed. Very much akin to newbs in any game claiming that anyone that is good is a hacker.
Don't be fucking stupid.
Also being most knowledgable on this site still makes him a nobody in the MMA world.

On April 05 2012 16:29 dUUd_ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2012 16:16 SfydjkLm wrote:   On April 05 2012 16:07 PplusAD wrote:   On April 05 2012 15:33 SfydjkLm wrote:   On April 04 2012 20:58 Raidern wrote: Man I'm just sad he got caught and the fight might be canceled because of that. I would be very surprised if the other big guys in the division didn't use roids I wouldn't. That's like being suprised that most GMs don't use maphacks/macros. People are still somewhat decent. Wtf plz shut up if u have no idea what u talking about ... 99,9 % of all professinal TOP 10 MMA athletes in all weightclasses use illegal substances during their prefight training camp. U have no idea how much and how hard those guys train. human body cant regenerate fast enough to accomplish the volume and intensity those guys go The difference is that some cheat just a little bit while others cheat massive. But nobody is completely clean ! And what is, dare i wonder, is the source of that information? even if you were the CEO of a pro managing company your knowledge would still be miniscule and only relate to the fighters directly under your supervision who are influenced by your policies. But as I see that you arent that, hearsay counts for even less. And i'm sure doing the same excessive 300 times a minute for 12 hours a day is totally less stressful. Learn some manners and some humility, son. not sure if trolling or not

Surely requesting sources for slander is trolling.
But if we're avoiding them, let's talk about faked moon landing, 9/11 inside job and Duga being used for mind control.

since this is very much akin to 'you cant prove me wrong' since where would there really be a statistics on that kind of thing, and since i don't want to see any more stupidity here,
provide us, if you be so kind with the following information: how many athletes are actually caught using, a proper scientific paper on how to avoid being caught, and how exactly can athletes afford to use and conceal them on the pennies they make from MMA(granted this may be a non issue). If the being caught % lines up to the ease of avoidance in a respectable fashion we'll consider you to be right.

On April 05 2012 16:57 SfydjkLm wrote: since this is very much akin to 'you cant prove me wrong' since where would there really be a statistics on that kind of thing, and since i don't want to see any more stupidity here, provide us, if you be so kind with the following information: how many athletes are actually caught using, a proper scientific paper on how to avoid being caught, and how exactly can athletes afford to use and conceal them on the pennies they make from MMA(granted this may be a non issue). If the being caught % lines up to the ease of avoidance in a respectable fashion we'll consider you to be right.

You know very well that there are no studies done on MMA and steroids. Quit being a douche. A LOT of people think steroids are extremely common in MMA(and professional sports). Many people have tested positive, and people are very good at hiding it.

To your questions:

1: http://www.cagepotato.com/mma-steroid-busts-definitive-timeline/

2: You don't need a scientific paper on "how not to get caught taking steroids". Believe it or not, not all knowledge has to be documented in a peer reviewed journal.

3: Some athletes have jobs, win prizes; some steroids aren't that expensive, etc.

It's narrow-minded to think that steroid abuse isn't fairly common at high levels of MMA where every fight could be the last. If people can cheat, they will.

On April 05 2012 16:16 SfydjkLm wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2012 16:07 PplusAD wrote:   On April 05 2012 15:33 SfydjkLm wrote:   On April 04 2012 20:58 Raidern wrote: Man I'm just sad he got caught and the fight might be canceled because of that. I would be very surprised if the other big guys in the division didn't use roids I wouldn't. That's like being suprised that most GMs don't use maphacks/macros. People are still somewhat decent. Wtf plz shut up if u have no idea what u talking about ... 99,9 % of all professinal TOP 10 MMA athletes in all weightclasses use illegal substances during their prefight training camp. U have no idea how much and how hard those guys train. human body cant regenerate fast enough to accomplish the volume and intensity those guys go The difference is that some cheat just a little bit while others cheat massive. But nobody is completely clean ! And what is, dare i wonder, is the source of that information? even if you were the CEO of a pro managing company your knowledge would still be miniscule and only relate to the fighters directly under your supervision who are influenced by your policies. But as I see that you arent that, hearsay counts for even less. And i'm sure doing the same excessive 300 times a minute for 12 hours a day is totally less stressful. Learn some manners and some humility, son.

his source is he trains with them.

although i dont think that using cleared supplements is cheating a little, abusing steroid is definitely cheating.

the "abusing" part is quite controversial though

On April 05 2012 16:36 SfydjkLm wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2012 16:28 Baalim wrote: common knowledge and he is probably the guy most involved in MMA in the whole site. Nobody is talking about fairness, we are sad and bitching because it would have been an amazing fight and some of us tought we had very profitable bets common knowledge indeed. Very much akin to newbs in any game claiming that anyone that is good is a hacker. Don't be fucking stupid. Also being most knowledgable on this site still makes him a nobody in the MMA world.

being most knowledgable in this forum makes him most knowledable than you, therefore its rational to assume its more likely he is right than you are.

Not like nobody fucking cares about proving anything to you tho, dont believe it? good, gtfo now.

On April 05 2012 17:53 goose58 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2012 16:57 SfydjkLm wrote: since this is very much akin to 'you cant prove me wrong' since where would there really be a statistics on that kind of thing, and since i don't want to see any more stupidity here, provide us, if you be so kind with the following information: how many athletes are actually caught using, a proper scientific paper on how to avoid being caught, and how exactly can athletes afford to use and conceal them on the pennies they make from MMA(granted this may be a non issue). If the being caught % lines up to the ease of avoidance in a respectable fashion we'll consider you to be right. You know very well that there are no studies done on MMA and steroids. Quit being a douche. A LOT of people think steroids are extremely common in MMA(and professional sports). Many people have tested positive, and people are very good at hiding it. To your questions: 1: http://www.cagepotato.com/mma-steroid-busts-definitive-timeline/ 2: You don't need a scientific paper on "how not to get caught taking steroids". Believe it or not, not all knowledge has to be documented in a peer reviewed journal. 3: Some athletes have jobs, win prizes; some steroids aren't that expensive, etc. It's narrow-minded to think that steroid abuse isn't fairly common at high levels of MMA where every fight could be the last. If people can cheat, they will.

any sport will do just fine. I think. Combat ones have to at least. I think. Maybe not something that involves young kids. A LOT of people think god exists. A lot of people thought GWBush was great president for a second term. A lot of people think women shouldnt have any rights. Why do I have to even bring that up? A lot of people was never a measure of truth.
1. interesting but isolated.
2. if their isnt that means athletes don't have a foolproof(or almost foolproof) ways to avoid being caught, and if they dont means that i'm right. But obviously it isnt the case, so obviously there are such papers or at least analysis from trustworthy sources.

On April 05 2012 18:41 Etherone wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2012 16:16 SfydjkLm wrote:   On April 05 2012 16:07 PplusAD wrote:   On April 05 2012 15:33 SfydjkLm wrote:   On April 04 2012 20:58 Raidern wrote: Man I'm just sad he got caught and the fight might be canceled because of that. I would be very surprised if the other big guys in the division didn't use roids I wouldn't. That's like being suprised that most GMs don't use maphacks/macros. People are still somewhat decent. Wtf plz shut up if u have no idea what u talking about ... 99,9 % of all professinal TOP 10 MMA athletes in all weightclasses use illegal substances during their prefight training camp. U have no idea how much and how hard those guys train. human body cant regenerate fast enough to accomplish the volume and intensity those guys go The difference is that some cheat just a little bit while others cheat massive. But nobody is completely clean ! And what is, dare i wonder, is the source of that information? even if you were the CEO of a pro managing company your knowledge would still be miniscule and only relate to the fighters directly under your supervision who are influenced by your policies. But as I see that you arent that, hearsay counts for even less. And i'm sure doing the same excessive 300 times a minute for 12 hours a day is totally less stressful. Learn some manners and some humility, son. his source is he trains with them. although i dont think that using cleared supplements is cheating a little, abusing steroid is definitely cheating. the "abusing" part is quite controversial though

Wtf do people think that training with someone is a reasonable sample size on a fucking poker forum?

On April 05 2012 19:56 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2012 16:36 SfydjkLm wrote:   On April 05 2012 16:28 Baalim wrote: common knowledge and he is probably the guy most involved in MMA in the whole site. Nobody is talking about fairness, we are sad and bitching because it would have been an amazing fight and some of us tought we had very profitable bets common knowledge indeed. Very much akin to newbs in any game claiming that anyone that is good is a hacker. Don't be fucking stupid. Also being most knowledgable on this site still makes him a nobody in the MMA world. being most knowledgable in this forum makes him most knowledable than you, therefore its rational to assume its more likely he is right than you are. Not like nobody fucking cares about proving anything to you tho, dont believe it? good, gtfo now.

No it's not rational. Looking at facts is rational. And there are no facts backing his point up that's for sure.

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Speaking of PEDs in MMA, one prominent UFC fighter told me recently that he believes 90% of fighters use some form of PEDs. If so, scary.