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NotSorry   United States. Aug 23 2012 18:21. Posts 2603

Really sucks for all the other guys on the card that trained their asses off for their fights.

We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. 

PuertoRican   United States. Aug 23 2012 18:50. Posts 13127




Moments ago on ESPN Sports Center.

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longple    Sweden. Aug 23 2012 19:04. Posts 4472

wtf


2c0ntent   Egypt. Aug 23 2012 19:46. Posts 1387

its kind of silly that sonnen's next fight after losing a fight for the belt would be a fight for another belt in a different division tho

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Svenman87   United States. Aug 23 2012 20:31. Posts 4636


  On August 23 2012 18:46 2c0ntent wrote:
its kind of silly that sonnen's next fight after losing a fight for the belt would be a fight for another belt in a different division tho



His name on a card = huge income - he's a master of hype...


2c0ntent   Egypt. Aug 23 2012 21:14. Posts 1387

yeah, just saying from the perspective of the semi-ladder that they typically appear to organize fighters into when matchmaking and choosing who gets title shots (which is a big deal)

randomly having sonnen vs jones would really make the system look arbitrary (well not arbitrary, but completely based on the UFC's own financial considerations rather than the spirit of fair competition) and unfair to the fighters

It seems to be getting a pass from the fan base and fighters so far, since it was an 'emergency' match up and all

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UpSwing   Canada. Aug 23 2012 21:23. Posts 134

its not random --- sonnen apparently is the only one who accepted

machida didn't accept and we don't know who else got offered before sonnen

all in all i think sonnen had a better shot at it than hendo did


whamm!   Albania. Aug 23 2012 21:27. Posts 11625

well this is too many PPVs argument again. they spread themselves too thin and they have a thin roster to work with. i dont blame jon jones at all for not taking the fight, still he is kind of a hypocrite since he did get his shot at shogun waaaay prematurely as well. i guess Nike deal is too sweet to gamble vs a loudmouth shit talker.


soberstone   United States. Aug 23 2012 22:03. Posts 2662

Jon Jones is a vagina for this, all the factors are in his favor and he could have saved the card and taken down a shit-talker (who I like)


NotSorry   United States. Aug 23 2012 22:04. Posts 2603

It's the UFCs fault for making such weak cards that something like this could completely cancel the who event.

We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. 

soberstone   United States. Aug 23 2012 22:06. Posts 2662


  On August 23 2012 21:04 NotSorry wrote:
It's the UFCs fault for making such weak cards that something like this could completely cancel the who event.



I agree completely but I still think JJ is being a total bitch.


whamm!   Albania. Aug 23 2012 22:22. Posts 11625

Lol fighting a very confident Machida is way riskier than Sonnen, possibly even more money. I think he just forgot he's not a boxer and thought he was going to "mayweather" his career - ana owns your ass sorry.


Minion   Brasil. Aug 23 2012 22:47. Posts 2112

Dana played the game really well making it look like it's JJ fault that the card got fucked up. It's UFC's problem after all, not JJ.

I don't like JJ and no one should be forced to take a fight on short notice, especially a title fight.

Now everyone is pissed at JJ even though it's not his fault Hendo can't fight.

 Last edit: 23/08/2012 22:48

Baalim   Mexico. Aug 23 2012 22:50. Posts 34262


  On August 23 2012 21:04 NotSorry wrote:
It's the UFCs fault for making such weak cards that something like this could completely cancel the who event.



not saying Jones is the only responsable obv, hell probably White wanted to teach him a lesson and decided to take the financial hit just to show Jones how easily he can fall from the grace of the crowd, and i am with him.

Seriously dodge an unprepared 185lb wrestler coming out of a loss because you arent reaching the PPV numbers you want?

Fuck Jon Jones, fuck Anderson Silva, fuck Greg Jackson and all the other greedy faggots who corrupt this sport


All hail to the true champion, the chubby midget who trained in his backyard playground fighting two weight classes above his own and kicking asses everywhere.






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Baalim   Mexico. Aug 23 2012 22:59. Posts 34262


  On August 23 2012 21:47 Minion wrote:
Dana played the game really well making it look like it's JJ fault that the card got fucked up. It's UFC's problem after all, not JJ.

I don't like JJ and no one should be forced to take a fight on short notice, especially a title fight.

Now everyone is pissed at JJ even though it's not his fault Hendo can't fight.



Jones:
Height 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m)
Weight 205 lb (93 kg)
Reach 84.5 in (215 cm)

Sonnen:
Height 6 ft 1 in (1.85 m)
Weight 185.5 lb (84 kg)
Reach 74 in (188 cm)


Oh yeah UFC totally threw him under the bus on this one LOL.... oh and yeah, 8 days notice is a big deal, but only for the guy who has 8 days to prepare, not for the one already scheduled to fight that day.

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Minion   Brasil. Aug 23 2012 23:31. Posts 2112

It doesn't matter if Sonnen is ready or not, JJ should think about his preparation, not Sonnen's.
If he doesn't think he is ready, he shoudn't take the fight.

Read this:
http://mmajunkie.com/news/30352/jon-j...decision-to-turn-down-replacement.mma

I agree 100% with Jones and i don't even like him.

 Last edit: 23/08/2012 23:32

Minion   Brasil. Aug 23 2012 23:38. Posts 2112

I wouldn't take the fight in his place either.
He just refused to get bullied by Dana like 99% of the UFC fighters.
Remember Condit giving up his title fight vs. GSP so Diaz could take it? lol

When you are that good, you don't have to what you don't wanna do.

It's like F1 these days when Massa and Barrichelo had to let Alonso and Schumacher pass cause they can't do anything about it.
Do you think Senna would ever agree with this shit?


NMcNasty    United States. Aug 24 2012 00:16. Posts 2039

JJ is like 80% to beat Sonnen right now but like 95% with a full camp. I understand his decision, not sure if I agree with it, but I understand.

White is a whiny little meathead as always.


whamm!   Albania. Aug 24 2012 01:20. Posts 11625

Bad move by Jones if he keeps this up. Remember Fedor? Look how well things turned out for him once he started doing things his way.
There is no other league and people will not go pay to watch bellator just because Jon Jones will be headlining, the UFC is actually the only making Jones the celebrity that he is - Silva almost got cut once he clowned around the Maia fight and he even destroyed that fight. Dana White is a badass fan too and fighters should know it once they sign up to ride this UFC train.

 Last edit: 24/08/2012 01:30

PuertoRican   United States. Aug 24 2012 01:34. Posts 13127

Lyoto Machida turns down title fight vs. Jon Jones, Vitor Belfort now meets Jones at UFC 152.
http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/8/24/...fc-152-after-lyoto-machida-turns-down

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