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Jamie217   Canada. Aug 24 2012 20:37. Posts 4351 | | |
I mean Dana is pissed at greg jackson and praises Chael for taking the fight.... who the hell wouldnt take a fight with the champ where no one expects you to win??? There is nothing to lose for Chael at all why wouldnt he take it. I mean I still dont agree with refusing a fight but I dont think Chael should be lauded for it.
It'll be pretty awesome though if Chael wins a couple at 205 and fight Jon Jones
And people hate on Greg Jackson but his fighters all win sooo i dunno.... not good for fans but he is looking out for his fighters, Dana just paints everyone who doesnt do what he wants as the bad guy |
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Jamie217   Canada. Aug 24 2012 20:41. Posts 4351 | | |
Btw Dan Henderson is pretty much a boss |
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Baalim   Mexico. Aug 24 2012 22:46. Posts 34262 | | |
| On August 24 2012 19:37 Jamie217 wrote:
I mean Dana is pissed at greg jackson and praises Chael for taking the fight.... who the hell wouldnt take a fight with the champ where no one expects you to win??? There is nothing to lose for Chael at all why wouldnt he take it. I mean I still dont agree with refusing a fight but I dont think Chael should be lauded for it.
It'll be pretty awesome though if Chael wins a couple at 205 and fight Jon Jones
And people hate on Greg Jackson but his fighters all win sooo i dunno.... not good for fans but he is looking out for his fighters, Dana just paints everyone who doesnt do what he wants as the bad guy |
all his fighters win because he fights to win no matter what, even GSP in his recent interviews says he will open up his game kind of letting know he is tired of sitting on top of his opponents for 5 rounds to a decision.
Lets not even get into the greasing scandal.
I agree that Sonnen shouldnt be praised, its a good chance for him but still others decided to pass.
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Baalim   Mexico. Aug 24 2012 22:48. Posts 34262 | | |
| On August 24 2012 17:53 UpSwing wrote:
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On August 24 2012 14:00 Funktion wrote:
| On August 24 2012 12:52 iakim322 wrote:
He's actually very right you idiot. At this stage in their careers, they use their skill sets in much different ways. Just because they're both very good wrestlers doesn't mean they fight alike. |
Maybe you can't read. He said they had "very different skills sets". Sure they use them differently but their skill sets are very much the same except that Chael doesn't have the stand up of Henderson or the power in his right.
So please tell me how radically different Chael is from Hendo in THIS fight, I'm dying to know.
Just what in training for Hendo won't almost directly apply to Chael. Do you think they spent the whole camp breaking down Hendersons tendancy to stand these days, never practising takedowns or positions if it does go to the ground? Maybe Jones take down defence is all of a sudden shit these days? Maybe he won't have a huge size, strength and reach advantage. Just where is Chael such a huge threat where Hendo isn't?
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how many times do we have to say this
chael has one thing everyone knows he is going to do and thats try to put you down
hendo is gonna try to strike
its completely different
stop trying to defend your side
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and he cant prepare against Sonnen in 8 days? ffs all he has to do is watch some tapes and rape -_- he is twice the size of sonnen and has insane wrestling, what could sonnen possibly do |
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whamm!   Albania. Aug 24 2012 22:57. Posts 11625 | | |
Sonnen's career ends if he loses this one. Taking this fight when obviously he has little to no chance of winning instead of fighting some bums around like Wandy etc is not a good way to "run" ones "business"
Also nobody wants some huge dhalsim guy dominate everyone when he can obviously fight guys his size. Jones s trying to look and sound all zen and shit fighting guys half his size lol. People like watching Jones fight the same reason people still watch Mayweather ppvs - they wanna see him get fucked up one time. |
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Target-x17   Canada. Aug 24 2012 23:02. Posts 1027 | | |
sonnen has said if he cant be the champ he doesint want a "business" many times |
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| On August 24 2012 14:00 Funktion wrote:
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On August 24 2012 12:52 iakim322 wrote:
He's actually very right you idiot. At this stage in their careers, they use their skill sets in much different ways. Just because they're both very good wrestlers doesn't mean they fight alike. |
Maybe you can't read. He said they had "very different skills sets". Sure they use them differently but their skill sets are very much the same
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Maybe you can't read... but thats exactly what I said. You agree with what I said. You just apparently didn't read it |
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UpSwing   Canada. Aug 25 2012 00:04. Posts 134 | | |
| On August 24 2012 21:48 Baalim wrote:
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On August 24 2012 17:53 UpSwing wrote:
| On August 24 2012 14:00 Funktion wrote:
| On August 24 2012 12:52 iakim322 wrote:
He's actually very right you idiot. At this stage in their careers, they use their skill sets in much different ways. Just because they're both very good wrestlers doesn't mean they fight alike. |
Maybe you can't read. He said they had "very different skills sets". Sure they use them differently but their skill sets are very much the same except that Chael doesn't have the stand up of Henderson or the power in his right.
So please tell me how radically different Chael is from Hendo in THIS fight, I'm dying to know.
Just what in training for Hendo won't almost directly apply to Chael. Do you think they spent the whole camp breaking down Hendersons tendancy to stand these days, never practising takedowns or positions if it does go to the ground? Maybe Jones take down defence is all of a sudden shit these days? Maybe he won't have a huge size, strength and reach advantage. Just where is Chael such a huge threat where Hendo isn't?
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how many times do we have to say this
chael has one thing everyone knows he is going to do and thats try to put you down
hendo is gonna try to strike
its completely different
stop trying to defend your side
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and he cant prepare against Sonnen in 8 days? ffs all he has to do is watch some tapes and rape -_- he is twice the size of sonnen and has insane wrestling, what could sonnen possibly do |
I think he can and i agree with you to some extent but the variance is slightly larger without the full camp imo.
As far as i know if he had to fight Chael it would be the first pure wrestler he has fought in a long time that would relentlessly try to take him down over and over and over --- chael doesn't quit if he misses once.
Evans didn't do this, nor machida, nor shogun, nor bader, nor rampage --- so i think its fair to say its a different kind of opponent and completely different from hendo as well.
Now if its correct to choose to fight or not I am not quite sure. As a fan i'm against it but if I was in Jones shoes it seems like a tough situation specially if your coaches, the people who you really trust, are telling you not to accept the fight.
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Baalim   Mexico. Aug 25 2012 00:13. Posts 34262 | | |
| On August 24 2012 23:04 UpSwing wrote:
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On August 24 2012 21:48 Baalim wrote:
| On August 24 2012 17:53 UpSwing wrote:
| On August 24 2012 14:00 Funktion wrote:
| On August 24 2012 12:52 iakim322 wrote:
He's actually very right you idiot. At this stage in their careers, they use their skill sets in much different ways. Just because they're both very good wrestlers doesn't mean they fight alike. |
Maybe you can't read. He said they had "very different skills sets". Sure they use them differently but their skill sets are very much the same except that Chael doesn't have the stand up of Henderson or the power in his right.
So please tell me how radically different Chael is from Hendo in THIS fight, I'm dying to know.
Just what in training for Hendo won't almost directly apply to Chael. Do you think they spent the whole camp breaking down Hendersons tendancy to stand these days, never practising takedowns or positions if it does go to the ground? Maybe Jones take down defence is all of a sudden shit these days? Maybe he won't have a huge size, strength and reach advantage. Just where is Chael such a huge threat where Hendo isn't?
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how many times do we have to say this
chael has one thing everyone knows he is going to do and thats try to put you down
hendo is gonna try to strike
its completely different
stop trying to defend your side
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and he cant prepare against Sonnen in 8 days? ffs all he has to do is watch some tapes and rape -_- he is twice the size of sonnen and has insane wrestling, what could sonnen possibly do |
I think he can and i agree with you to some extent but the variance is slightly larger without the full camp imo.
As far as i know if he had to fight Chael it would be the first pure wrestler he has fought in a long time that would relentlessly try to take him down over and over and over --- chael doesn't quit if he misses once.
Evans didn't do this, nor machida, nor shogun, nor bader, nor rampage --- so i think its fair to say its a different kind of opponent and completely different from hendo as well.
Now if its correct to choose to fight or not I am not quite sure. As a fan i'm against it but if I was in Jones shoes it seems like a tough situation.
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The 8 days notice is a bigger disadvantage for Sonnen than for JJ, Sonnen is not in fight shape and JJ is, that is a HUGE difference, if JJ were the one with 8 days to train, then i would toally agree with him refusing a fight.
Yes sonnen is different than those he is a weaker opponent for Jones... good luck taking down a superb judo wrestler with an insane reach advantage twice your size who doesnt respect your striking at all lol. |
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Funktion   Australia. Aug 25 2012 01:43. Posts 1638 | | |
| On August 24 2012 17:53 UpSwing wrote:
chael has one thing everyone knows he is going to do and thats try to put you down
hendo is gonna try to strike
its completely different
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If you think Jones didn't prepare for the possibility that Dan was going to try to take him down or what to do if it did happen etc then I don't know what to say. Obviously you think Jackson and Jones are the dumbest people on earth and wouldn't of prepared for everything Dan would try and focused only on his standup and "H-bomb". And like I said before is Jones TDD just shit now? Is he suddenly way smaller or weaker than Chael? Does he not have a huge reach advantage for Chael to deal with?
You make it sound like Chael was just going to take down Jones at will and do whatever he wants. |
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Funktion   Australia. Aug 25 2012 12:31. Posts 1638 | | |
Nik Lentz did/is doing an AMA on reddit if anyone is interested.
Hey! My name is Nik Lentz. I'm a full time professional fighter and am employed by the UFC. I just changed weight classes and now fight at 145 lbs. In my off time I play video games way to much (Mostly Starcraft) Below I will post a few questions that people ask me regularly.
How is working with Mike Dolce and getting to 145:
It was crazy, I was walking around at 180 lbs and he was way to “chill” about it. It was around 5 months out from my last fight when I started working with him. He would say, “its going to be easy man!” but in my head I was scared. After being on the diet for a month, my weight was down to around 172. To make a long story short, my weight went down, energy up, got stronger and could train longer. The week before the fight and the final cut was easy. It really was easier than making 155. I don’t understand how he is so good at this, but he is the real deal.
What’s your rank in Starcraft 2?
I have not got to play the last two seasons very much. I have been training so hard and living in a hotel in Florida. Before that I was a Masters Protoss on the NA and EU ladder. I’m supper rusty, but plan to be playing a lot more soon. The wife somehow destroyed my rig while I was staying in Florida…I’m in the process of fixing it now. You can also talk to me on twitter @NikLentz so.......ummmm........AMA
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/ysc0d/hi_reddit_i_nik_lentziama_full_time_fighter_in/
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HaiVan   Bulgaria. Aug 28 2012 21:44. Posts 2083 | | |
UG explodes after Dana White asks for feedback on Fedor vs. Brock fight
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/...for-feedback-on-Fedor-vs-Brock-fight/
| A UGer recently posted a hopeful message to UFC President Dana White about making a monumentally theoretical fight between Brock Lesnar and Fedor.
Can Dana sign Brock vs. Fedor?
From: hmb
Member Since: 10/30/03
Posts: 14134
Brock is a warrior and would be a HUGE favorite. I know he would come back for this fight.
Fedor loves his freak show fights and would have a dominant punching edge.
Brock vs. Fedor would destroy all PPV #'s past and present.
Can Dana make the biggest fight in UFC history happen? This card could also feature GSP's return, and the first girl fight. Rousey v Carano?
White replied:
From: dfw jr
Member Since: 1/1/01
Posts: 1246
Is this the fight u guys want to see? Post a thread asking if people want to see this fight.
An alert UGer posted the question:
Russianorkhan
Member Since: 12/27/11
Posts: 1024
In the other thread about Brock vs fedor, dfw asked to start a thread and see if people want to still see this fight. He might be completely joking, but if there's even a slight chance he's serious.......hell yes I would love to still see this fight
So do you want to see Brock Lesnar vs. Fedor Emelianenko?
The response was overwhelming, reaching 250 replies in under three hours.
So do you want to see Brock Lesnar vs. Fedor Emelianenko?
Post your reply here... |
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Baalim   Mexico. Aug 29 2012 01:27. Posts 34262 | | |
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Aug 29 2012 02:06. Posts 4080 | | |
LOL IM A MASSIVE NIK LENTZ FAN NOW
WOW guy is a master on SC2 while being a sick mma fighter thats fucking hilarious LOL
Also thread saver
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Swedish fighter Besam Yousef and Stephen ”Wonderboy” Thompson willl fight on UFC 154. Besam lost to that Simeon Thoresen at UFC: Sweden in quite possibly the best bout of the evening and Wonderboy lost to Matt Brown not long ago. This will be the battle of fun, neither will ever fight for the title but both are really fun to watch. |
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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 31 2012 01:50. Posts 13143 | | |
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sickest card of the year
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Nah, UFC on FOX 5 is the sickest UFC card of the year. Check it out:
UFC 153: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_153
UFC on FOX 5: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_on_Fox_5
Imagine removing the main event from both cards, then compare them.
Edit - I don't remember if UFC on FOX 5 is the sickest card of 2012, but, it's better than UFC 153. |
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Malibuya   Denmark. Aug 31 2012 02:46. Posts 3 | | |
Damn, I cant see Edgar holding his own in the standup, I think his only chance of winning is to mix in alot of takedowns, but both Mendes and Faber was unsuccesfull doing that
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