how to approach a super standard spot
patti, Sep 16 2011
I don't think I've improved in a really long time am a bit upset. It never really was for the money but to truly get better at this game. I play really tight and just beat on the fish. Shooting fish in a barrel. I vbet when I have the best hand, check when I'm unsure or feel like I can catch up and fold the worst of it. I play in position as much as possible.
I've tried to figure out this game myself and unfortunately have cone as far as I could. Graciously I ask for advice.
I am playing 1/2 attempting to open more hands and play trickier spots.
I isloate 3 limpers with KQo late to 17 with 200 starting stack. BB calls who I truly consider a good reg aa he is fearless and makes plenty of moves. He imo has a great feel to when his hand can get to sd, and turns a lot of hands into bluffs. As long as he isn't raised I see him tripple barrel a lot, I really like his game. Random fish limper calls
flop is QT7 with a flush draw. I cbet 35 into about 45 (looks like the bet is too small but live dynamic is a bit diff than online althougj I prob could bet more). Good reg calls and fish folds.
Turn is an 8 which also brings a flush. Villain leads for 60 into 120 ish with about 120 remaining.
My assumptions
- villain is good enough to bluff here and will follow through on river
-villain can hand read
-my range actually is tighter on such a drawy board, I'm not cbetting as much air as I normally cbet. I'm checking all my Tx here and cbetting Qx or better as well as all my 8 out draws, as well as suited Broadway 3 flushes (as in gutshot and backdoor draw)
-i believe villain to be checking Qx hands on the turn and leading pair Plus draws, flushes, straight draws. Basically nut/air.
Knowing this a call is obvious with a bluff catcher like Qx. Or any random pp I happened to cbet as a bluff. But how do you APPROACH how do u guage how many draws he has here? If it s a pi graph how do I know its 30 percent flush 70 percent air? Or 80 percent flush 20 percent air?
I felt so exploitable in this spit esp with live timing / physical tells and felt my hand to be face up. I know I can flat some flushes here too but I didn't feel like I looked like I ever have 1 here. As a side note ill say that I think most ppl here just raise their flushes to instinctively and that's why tricky reg does this. When flatted it is like a green light to barrel river. I have been noticing this a lot and have adjusted by planning to slow play lots of strong hands against him.
So to summarize how do u guage how much nuts vs air he has?
What can I do to protect myself?
How do I ultimately become a better player?
how to approach a super standard spot
patti, Sep 16 2011
I don't think I've improved in a really long time am a bit upset. It never really was for the money but to truly get better at this game. I play really tight and just beat on the fish. Shooting fish in a barrel. I vbet when I have the best hand, check when I'm unsure or feel like I can catch up and fold the worst of it. I play in position as much as possible.
I've tried to figure out this game myself and unfortunately have cone as far as I could. Graciously I ask for advice.
I am playing 1/2 attempting to open more hands and play trickier spots.
I isloate 3 limpers with KQo late to 17 with 200 starting stack. BB calls who I truly consider a good reg aa he is fearless and makes plenty of moves. He imo has a great feel to when his hand can get to sd, and turns a lot of hands into bluffs. As long as he isn't raised I see him tripple barrel a lot, I really like his game. Random fish limper calls
flop is QT7 with a flush draw. I cbet 35 into about 45 (looks like the bet is too small but live dynamic is a bit diff than online althougj I prob could bet more). Good reg calls and fish folds.
Turn is an 8 which also brings a flush. Villain leads for 60 into 120 ish with about 120 remaining.
My assumptions
- villain is good enough to bluff here and will follow through on river
-villain can hand read
-my range actually is tighter on such a drawy board, I'm not cbetting as much air as I normally cbet. I'm checking all my Tx here and cbetting Qx or better as well as all my 8 out draws, as well as suited Broadway 3 flushes (as in gutshot and backdoor draw)
-i believe villain to be checking Qx hands on the turn and leading pair Plus draws, flushes, straight draws. Basically nut/air.
Knowing this a call is obvious with a bluff catcher like Qx. Or any random pp I happened to cbet as a bluff. But how do you APPROACH how do u guage how many draws he has here? If it s a pi graph how do I know its 30 percent flush 70 percent air? Or 80 percent flush 20 percent air?
I felt so exploitable in this spit esp with live timing / physical tells and felt my hand to be face up. I know I can flat some flushes here too but I didn't feel like I looked like I ever have 1 here. As a side note ill say that I think most ppl here just raise their flushes to instinctively and that's why tricky reg does this. When flagged it is like a
Introduction/Conclusion
patti, Aug 04 2011
Hi,
I am 25 years old and work in HR for a well known financial institute in Jacksonville and enjoy my job. I played poker for fun online for about a year but only made it to .25/.5 on FTP (FML).
I've been playing live poker for the past 4 months and have made 4k at the 200 table, and have matched that 4k at the 500 table.
It's a fun hobby, and it pays and although I have somewhat toyed with the idea of considering myself "semi-professional" I would never want to "just play poker." I have a lot of pride in my job as I do believe it provides a good service to millions of people nationwide and do consider myself a small part of it. I enjoy helping other human beings and am glad that my job truly does help people.
Anyway, long time lurker here, and just kinda want to warn/apologize in advance for the most likely large influx of nl500 live hands in the medium stakes poker section. I do appreciate all posts, and hope to become a better/complete player, although I find this really difficult without the luxury of putting in volume through internet poker.
My goal for this game is to reach a certain level of mastery where I feel like I understand 90% of poker. I feel as though I am at the 60% level, but I do see a ceiling/limit to how good a player can be. For example I think jungleman/sauce/isuldur all prob know close to 98% of all knowledge/theory/metagame about poker and think edges are literally day to day based on how they feel. Anyway I do wish to reach about the 90% lvl, and upon reaching that goal hope to walk away with a new skill, and a new lvl of enlightenment and pursue a different goal.
All the best
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