Grinding Madness

Do you guys talk trash on the tables or never ?

I admit that I loose it sometimes I'm really considering asking for a chat ban I have no self-control regarding this matter. T_T

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So after breaking even for 5 sessions and watching my ptBB drop from 6 to 4,xx I was starting to get worried but I had this awsome 10 buyins session and it's all good now, well kinda I could be running so much better this week I've ran into so much beats/setups/coolers that I'm pretty sure a couple of months ago would totally crush my ability and will to play poker.

I just stopped a session due to 3 hands in a row where I got totally fucked, standard stuff to be honest but they happened in less then 5 minutes dif, witch is very T_T

http://www.liquidpoker.net/mytlnet/myhand.php?view=item&id=659440
http://www.liquidpoker.net/mytlnet/myhand.php?view=item&id=659435
http://www.liquidpoker.net/mytlnet/myhand.php?view=item&id=659426


I started NL25 with 5xx$ and now I'm sitting at 1500$ (400$ from micro donkaments the rest is NL25) not sure what to do with them I have three options in my mind, take a NL50 FR shot, play some NL25 6-max to improve my postflop game or cashout leave like 600$ buy some cool stuff and keep playing NL25.

What do you guys think ?
How big is the leap to NL50 FR or NL25 6-max ?

I'm gonna make a decision by the weekend I love playing this game and the thought of improving makes me happy, but buying a cool 22 inch monitor a netbook and more 360 stuff also makes me happy. =p

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There is something fucked up going on, I must have upset some high entity of the fucking poker astral plane.

There is a fucking invisible wall that doesn't let me get beyond 1k everytime I reach it I get soulcrushed so hard that I wanna call my mom and cry like a fucking whinny bitch.

I have a special message for said entity and for those of you who have not heard or seen it here is a picture of the creature that punishes all of us from time to time.



NOW LISTEN TO ME MOTHERFUCKER

whiskey_bar: arg
Dealer: Game #26176742697:
Mr.G-unot222 wins pot (9511) with a flush,
Ace high
whiskey_bar: stars is trying to destroy my
soul
whiskey_bar: but i shall not surrender
whiskey_bar: are you listening mofos ?
whiskey_bar: YOU ARE NOT GONNA
CRUSH MY SOUL
CobraBiv: lol

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Just finished another session and well I was UP now I'm breaking even for the past 3 days, that sucks madballz and I get all nervous and shit, but since there is a lot of BS going on I'm not worried hopefully things will go back to normal by the weekend.

Some interesting hands.

Submitted by : dejokah

PokerStars Game #26113053935: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2009/03/18 21:25:29 ET
Table Nikko 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: GetHighRM125 ($26.55 in chips)
Seat 2: chas2148 ($14.90 in chips)
Seat 3: sheppard43 ($17.65 in chips)
Seat 4: Mboma ($26.60 in chips)
Seat 5: renatooo ($4.15 in chips)
Seat 6: luckzor ($25.10 in chips)
Seat 8: whiskey_bar ($32.30 in chips)
Seat 9: letikelly ($27.10 in chips)
GetHighRM125: posts small blind $0.10
chas2148: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to whiskey_bar
sheppard43: folds
Mboma: folds
renatooo: folds
luckzor: folds
whiskey_bar: raises $0.75 to $1
letikelly: folds
GetHighRM125: raises $2 to $3
chas2148: folds
whiskey_bar: calls $2

Flop (Pot : $6.25)

   
GetHighRM125: checks
whiskey_bar: checks

Turn (Pot : $6.25)

   
GetHighRM125: bets $3.50
whiskey_bar: raises $6.75 to $10.25
GetHighRM125: folds
Uncalled bet ($6.75) returned to whiskey_bar
whiskey_bar collected $12.65 from pot
whiskey_bar: doesnt show hand

Summary
Total pot $13.25 | Rake $0.60
Board  
Seat 1: GetHighRM125 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: chas2148 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: sheppard43 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: Mboma folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: renatooo folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: luckzor folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 8: whiskey_bar collected ($12.65)
Seat 9: letikelly (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)

PokerStars Game #26110657875: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2009/03/18 20:08:17 ET
Table Nikko 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: mejsunio ($7.75 in chips)
Seat 2: hairyfb ($25.90 in chips)
Seat 3: coorsflat ($27.40 in chips)
Seat 4: jazziu ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 5: mastapj44 ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: Thekakou ($4.50 in chips)
Seat 7: DaTruf_88 ($25.25 in chips)
Seat 8: whiskey_bar ($25 in chips)
Seat 9: dogaroo72 ($43.85 in chips)
DaTruf_88: posts small blind $0.10
whiskey_bar: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to whiskey_bar
dogaroo72: calls $0.25
mejsunio: calls $0.25
hairyfb: calls $0.25
coorsflat: folds
jazziu: folds
mastapj44: folds
Thekakou: folds
DaTruf_88: folds
whiskey_bar: raises $1.50 to $1.75
dogaroo72: folds
mejsunio: folds
hairyfb: calls $1.50

Flop (Pot : $4.10)

   
whiskey_bar: checks
hairyfb: bets $3
whiskey_bar: raises $6.75 to $9.75
hairyfb: calls $6.75

Turn (Pot : $23.60)

   
whiskey_bar: checks
hairyfb: bets $14.40 and is all-in
whiskey_bar said, "quads ?"
whiskey_bar said, ":o"
whiskey_bar said, "wtf"
whiskey_bar: folds
Uncalled bet ($14.40) returned to hairyfb
hairyfb collected $22.45 from pot
hairyfb: doesnt show hand

Summary
Total pot $23.60 | Rake $1.15
Board  
Seat 1: mejsunio folded before Flop
Seat 2: hairyfb collected ($22.45)
Seat 3: coorsflat folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: jazziu folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: mastapj44 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Thekakou (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 7: DaTruf_88 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: whiskey_bar (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 9: dogaroo72 folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #26030502903: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2009/03/16 15:34:26 ET
Table Pegasus 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Guillaume989 ($32.75 in chips)
Seat 2: jwnash ($11.20 in chips)
Seat 3: maschine1981 ($14.15 in chips)
Seat 4: bagnus ($25 in chips)
Seat 5: Tezmax ($17.55 in chips)
Seat 6: Bwere ($15.35 in chips)
Seat 7: altzie ($27 in chips)
Seat 8: graceaisha ($21.35 in chips)
Seat 9: whiskey_bar ($37.20 in chips)
bagnus: posts small blind $0.10
Tezmax: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to whiskey_bar
Bwere: folds
altzie: folds
graceaisha: calls $0.25
whiskey_bar: raises $1 to $1.25
Guillaume989: folds
jwnash: folds
maschine1981: folds
bagnus: folds
Tezmax: folds
graceaisha: calls $1

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $2.85)

   
graceaisha: checks
whiskey_bar: bets $2.25
graceaisha: calls $2.25

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $7.35)

   
graceaisha: checks
whiskey_bar: bets $4.25
graceaisha: calls $4.25

River (Pot : $15.85)

   
graceaisha: checks
whiskey_bar: checks

Showdown
graceaisha: shows (three of a kind, Sevens)
whiskey_bar: mucks hand
graceaisha collected $15.10 from pot

Summary
Total pot $15.85 | Rake $0.75
Board  
Seat 1: Guillaume989 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: jwnash folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: maschine1981 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: bagnus (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Tezmax (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Bwere folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 7: altzie folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 8: graceaisha showed and won ($15.10) with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 9: whiskey_bar mucked

PokerStars Game #26146394785: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2009/03/19 20:39:32 ET
Table Indiana V 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: whiskey_bar ($33 in chips)
Seat 2: Nelisschuif7 ($28.05 in chips)
Seat 3: mspitolai ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: bythorian ($24.55 in chips)
Seat 5: mohammedia ($20.25 in chips)
Seat 6: Igol24 ($18.55 in chips)
Seat 7: HGWT Paladin ($35.55 in chips)
Seat 8: cilvaringz08 ($16.30 in chips)
Seat 9: alvaro_roka ($12.05 in chips)
mspitolai: posts small blind $0.10
bythorian: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to whiskey_bar
mohammedia: folds
Igol24: calls $0.25
cilvaringz08 said, "nc"
HGWT Paladin: calls $0.25
cilvaringz08: folds
alvaro_roka: folds
whiskey_bar: raises $1.25 to $1.50
Nelisschuif7: calls $1.50
mspitolai: calls $1.40
bythorian: folds
Igol24: calls $1.25
HGWT Paladin: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $6.50)

   
mspitolai: checks
Igol24: checks
whiskey_bar: bets $4.25
Nelisschuif7: folds
mspitolai: calls $4.25
Igol24: calls $4.25

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $19.25)

   
mspitolai: checks
Igol24: checks
whiskey_bar: bets $27.25 and is all-in
mspitolai: calls $19.25 and is all-in
Igol24: calls $12.80 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($8) returned to whiskey_bar

River (Pot : $64.10)

   

Showdown
mspitolai: shows (a flush, Ace high)
whiskey_bar: mucks hand
mspitolai collected $12.70 from side pot
Igol24: mucks hand
mspitolai collected $54.85 from main pot

Summary
Total pot $70.55 Main pot $54.85. Side pot $12.70. | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: whiskey_bar mucked
Seat 2: Nelisschuif7 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: mspitolai (small blind) showed and won ($67.55) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 4: bythorian (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: mohammedia folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Igol24 mucked
Seat 7: HGWT Paladin folded before Flop
Seat 8: cilvaringz08 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 9: alvaro_roka folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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Hello fellow LPers I need some poker oversight.

Even tho I'm a winner in NL25 (6ptBB over 30k+) I think it's time for me to start thinking a little bit different, I'm currently 8 tabling so most of my play is standard and I know that works but I do have the intention to move up and I don't think my current game is gonna cut it.

I'll try to describe my thinking process and game plan so more experienced players can give me tips on how to improve.

So far most of the play happens PF I know very little about playing short handed and I'm horrible at HU so I think my postflop play is flawed in many aspects, basically what I do is base my decisions (C/R/F) on player stats and take it from there I don't pay attention to hands that I'm not participating because to be honest I don't even think I have the brain power to do so, I do make plays like squeezing pots and re-steal based on CBET% and 3bet% and I'm pretty sure i get it right most of the time, I understand the concept of fold equity but rarely use it because the people I play with rarely fold. (They never fold overpairs or sets even in the most atrocious kind of board)

I can recognize "types" of players and I have a basic idea on how to exploit aggro donks and extreme nits by letting them value bet themselves on the first case and doing unorthodox stuff on later.

The reason I'm posting this is because playing like C3PO 80% gets old and I want to evolve, I appreciate advices and comments.

Thank you all.

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Is it normal to get stacked against sets 10 times in the same day ? (Serious Question)

I feel bad, been getting this awesome cards and down 6 BIs I'd say that almost 50% of my overpairs got beat by set today and I'm not gonna even talk about TPTKs.

Now when I get QQ+ instead of YAY i can't help but think, meh here we go again.

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yey!
Even microstakers have the right to brag amiright ?

NL25 going smooth there are so many people lost, so many short mid stakes who don't have any ideia what they are doing and regulars who are tighter then a catholic virgin ass.

Walk in the park so far.

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I just took a major break from poker.

After the last major tilt (last post) I managed to keep loosing until there was only 50$ left (less than what I started)

I lost all will to play poker for awhile, it's hard to handle tilting your whole bankroll. (even if it's only a microstakes roll lulz)

Anyway I've been playing for the past few weeks and made my way back to NL10 from NL5 in the first week, after that I was crushing NL10 with a ridiculous 17 ptBB and working my way up to NL25 when I cashed 300$ in one of those low buy-ins donkaments (4th place) now I'm playing NL25 with a nice roll and people are just trowing money at me, so fast >_<.

Almost 1k$ and Goldstar so I'm pretty happy but still can't help but wonder where I could be if I didn't screwed up last time arround NL25.

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Meh, I'm in a state of mind where I don't feel any pain but I'm sure that in a few hours from now I'll be feeling like the stupid motherfucker I am.

All those hours of grind are gone, tilted away in NL25, 300$ or 12BI over 5k hands of nonstop playing like a sick degen.

For those who like to see the idiocy of others a compilation to my own stupidity.



And the very best of the hands I played:

Submitted by : dejokah

PokerStars Game #23016673176: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/12/17 21:12:23 ET
Table Hunnia 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: whiskey_bar ($25 in chips)
Seat 3: ramrod11 ($15.70 in chips)
Seat 4: 4everDreamin ($14.15 in chips)
Seat 6: natebdn357 ($17.45 in chips)
Seat 7: dbigmike29 ($15.70 in chips)
Seat 8: muh_be_nie ($21.35 in chips)
Seat 9: Kontrast101 ($25 in chips)
muh_be_nie: posts small blind $0.10
Kontrast101: posts big blind $0.25
fair&square: sits out

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to whiskey_bar
whiskey_bar: raises $0.75 to $1
ramrod11: folds
4everDreamin: folds
natebdn357: calls $1
dbigmike29: folds
muh_be_nie: folds
Kontrast101: raises $2.50 to $3.50
whiskey_bar: calls $2.50
natebdn357: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $8.10)

   
Kontrast101: bets $5
whiskey_bar: raises $16.50 to $21.50 and is all-in
Kontrast101: calls $16.50 and is all-in

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $51.10)

   

River (Pot : $51.10)

   
Cardini 23 leaves the table

Showdown
Kontrast101: shows (two pair, Jacks and Nines)
whiskey_bar: mucks hand
Kontrast101 collected $48.60 from pot

Summary
Total pot $51.10 | Rake $2.50
Board  
Seat 1: whiskey_bar mucked
Seat 3: ramrod11 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: 4everDreamin folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: natebdn357 folded before Flop
Seat 7: dbigmike29 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 8: muh_be_nie (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Kontrast101 (big blind) showed and won ($48.60) with two pair, Jacks and Nines

PokerStars Game #23017450122: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/12/17 21:43:25 ET
Table Azha 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: kittyjois ($16.80 in chips)
Seat 3: smitto429 ($8.90 in chips)
Seat 4: whiskey_bar ($25.35 in chips)
Seat 5: union gap ($24 in chips)
Seat 7: Eksal ($16.30 in chips)
Seat 8: 2011wahoo ($40.50 in chips)
Seat 9: WABY GOON ($24.15 in chips)
smitto429: posts small blind $0.10
whiskey_bar: posts big blind $0.25
Timurka: sits out

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to whiskey_bar
union gap: folds
Eksal: folds
2011wahoo: calls $0.25
WABY GOON: folds
kittyjois: folds
smitto429: calls $0.15
whiskey_bar: raises $25.10 to $25.35 and is all-in
2011wahoo: calls $25.10
smitto429: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $50.95)

   

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $50.95)

   

River (Pot : $50.95)

   

Showdown
whiskey_bar: shows (two pair, Tens and Threes)
2011wahoo: shows (two pair, Kings and Threes)
2011wahoo collected $48.45 from pot

Summary
Total pot $50.95 | Rake $2.50
Board  
Seat 1: kittyjois (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: smitto429 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: whiskey_bar (big blind) showed and lost with two pair, Tens and Threes
Seat 5: union gap folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 7: Eksal folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 8: 2011wahoo showed and won ($48.45) with two pair, Kings and Threes
Seat 9: WABY GOON folded before Flop (didnt bet)

PokerStars Game #23016983677: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/12/17 21:24:33 ET
Table Drymas II 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: DreamSS ($27.45 in chips)
Seat 2: tweetyx ($83.05 in chips)
Seat 3: NCWolfpack44 ($24 in chips)
Seat 4: bwayt ($25 in chips)
Seat 5: m1ki ($35.90 in chips)
Seat 6: whiskey_bar ($25 in chips)
Seat 7: jpm986 ($25.60 in chips)
Seat 8: J.G.J ($25 in chips)
Seat 9: LukaLP1 ($17.35 in chips)
jpm986: posts small blind $0.10
J.G.J: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to whiskey_bar
LukaLP1: folds
DreamSS: folds
tweetyx: folds
NCWolfpack44: folds
bwayt: raises $0.75 to $1
m1ki: folds
whiskey_bar: calls $1
jpm986: raises $2.25 to $3.25
J.G.J: folds
bwayt: folds
whiskey_bar: calls $2.25

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $7.75)

   
jpm986: bets $3.25
whiskey_bar: calls $3.25

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $14.25)

   
jpm986: checks
whiskey_bar: checks

River (Pot : $14.25)

   
jpm986: bets $7.25
whiskey_bar: raises $11.25 to $18.50 and is all-in
jpm986: calls $11.25

Showdown
whiskey_bar: shows (a pair of Nines)
jpm986: shows (a pair of Aces)
jpm986 collected $48.75 from pot

Summary
Total pot $51.25 | Rake $2.50
Board  
Seat 1: DreamSS folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: tweetyx folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: NCWolfpack44 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: bwayt folded before Flop
Seat 5: m1ki folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: whiskey_bar (button) showed and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 7: jpm986 (small blind) showed and won ($48.75) with a pair of Aces
Seat 8: J.G.J (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: LukaLP1 folded before Flop (didnt bet)

PokerStars Game #22990911850: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/12/17 0:08:46 ET
Table Alfirk IV 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: Cinnia_Maray ($27.90 in chips)
Seat 3: sabalero34 ($7.35 in chips)
Seat 4: Plus_Jun ($19.30 in chips)
Seat 5: hernan_ivey ($5 in chips)
Seat 6: wildsparks ($22.95 in chips)
Seat 7: blackmore ($22 in chips)
Seat 8: fishflaps78 ($41.05 in chips)
Seat 9: whiskey_bar ($29.60 in chips)
whiskey_bar: posts small blind $0.10
AJayy: is sitting out
Cinnia_Maray: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to whiskey_bar
sabalero34: calls $0.25
AJayy leaves the table
Plus_Jun: folds
hernan_ivey: folds
NYBATTERI joins the table at seat #1
wildsparks: calls $0.25
blackmore: folds
fishflaps78: folds
whiskey_bar: raises $1.25 to $1.50
Cinnia_Maray: calls $1.25
sabalero34: folds
wildsparks: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $3.50)

   
whiskey_bar: bets $1.75
Cinnia_Maray: calls $1.75

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $7.00)

   
whiskey_bar: bets $3.75
Cinnia_Maray: calls $3.75

River (Pot : $14.50)

   
whiskey_bar: checks
Cinnia_Maray: bets $7.50
whiskey_bar: raises $15.10 to $22.60 and is all-in
Cinnia_Maray: calls $13.40 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1.70) returned to whiskey_bar

Showdown
whiskey_bar: shows (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
Cinnia_Maray: shows (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
Cinnia_Maray collected $53.55 from pot

Summary
Total pot $56.30 | Rake $2.75
Board  
Seat 2: Cinnia_Maray (big blind) showed and won ($53.55) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 3: sabalero34 folded before Flop
Seat 4: Plus_Jun folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: hernan_ivey folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: wildsparks folded before Flop
Seat 7: blackmore folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 8: fishflaps78 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 9: whiskey_bar (small blind) showed and lost with two pair, Jacks and Sevens

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Farewell NL10 we had good times.

I was running bad (breaking even) for a few sessions and decide to take a day off, watched the whole Death Note series (anime) 37 episodes (20m each) and it's definitely one of the best animes I've ever watched even if you don't like the genre i really recommend this one.

After that short break I made 2 really good sessions and now I'm rolled for NL25 with exactly 20BIs (500$) and it feels good to move up now, it was faster then i expected, this is my final (hopefully) graph in this limit.



I played much more MTTs then i thought in this period and I broke the bubble in 2 of them for 26$ and 43$ and i thought i was UP in MTTs but the PT data proved this to be wrong I'm down about 20 something and I don't know if I should keep playing them while grinding does anybody has some experience with grinding and playing MTTs every once in awhile ?

Anyway I also wanna ask people to take a look at my stats and see what they can tell me from that, I know this is not an exact science but maybe there is some major problem I'm unable to see.



Also regarding stats I would like to ask more experienced players about using stats to make the correct plays, for now the only thing i look for is VPIP and PFR, this is enough to differentiate donks from regulars but I think on NL25 there might be more than 2 tipes of players so any help regarding this is highly appreciated.

People in NL10 don't 3bet at all unelss they have a real hand so %3bet and %fold3bet it's really not an important stat, I'm expecting this to change in NL25 so that's why i wanna know more about interpreting stats.

Thanks for reading everything I really look forward to see other players impressions.

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